2.2 swap into a 2.0 car not legal
07-23-2012, 08:06 PM
#1
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2.2 swap into a 2.0 car not legal
Ive passed before with no issue but this time not so easy.
Ill go into detail later, but the smog station.....not the best!
All I could find, under replacemenrt engines.
http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/replace.htm
Ill go into detail later, but the smog station.....not the best!
All I could find, under replacemenrt engines.
http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/replace.htm
07-23-2012, 08:30 PM
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FYI I wanted to start this thread mainly to inform myself and others..never thought of the swap as an issue.
I was even pulled over by Police on the way to the smog station and he had no issue with the swap.
He knew the difference between a 2.0 and 2.2..I was nice...he was nice and let me go.
I was even pulled over by Police on the way to the smog station and he had no issue with the swap.
He knew the difference between a 2.0 and 2.2..I was nice...he was nice and let me go.
07-23-2012, 08:56 PM
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that motor DOES NOT belong in your car. Just because that motor does come from another s2000 Doesn't mean it will pass smog without other paperwork. From my undertanding you need to take your car to the state ref and get that car BAR'd with that motors info EX. vin # You are going to have the matching 2.2 ECU. It will not pass BAR with the AP1 ecu.
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07-23-2012, 09:06 PM
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Engine Changes
Engine changes are legal as long as the following requirements are met to ensure that the change does not increase pollution from the vehicle:
The engine must be the same year or newer than the vehicle.
The engine must be from the same type of vehicle (passenger car, light-duty truck, heavy-duty truck, etc.) based on gross vehicle weight.
If the vehicle is a California certified vehicle then the engine must also be a California certified engine.
All emissions control equipment must remain on the installed engine.
Vehicles converted to 100% electric drive, with all power supplied by on-board batteries are considered in compliance with the engine change requirements. All fuel system components must be removed prior to inspection. For additional information contact the ARB helpline at (800) 242-4450
After an engine change, vehicles must first be inspected by a state referee station. The vehicle will be inspected to ensure that all the equipment required is in place, and vehicle will be emissions tested subject to the specifications of the installed engine.
Engine changes are legal as long as the following requirements are met to ensure that the change does not increase pollution from the vehicle:
The engine must be the same year or newer than the vehicle.
The engine must be from the same type of vehicle (passenger car, light-duty truck, heavy-duty truck, etc.) based on gross vehicle weight.
If the vehicle is a California certified vehicle then the engine must also be a California certified engine.
All emissions control equipment must remain on the installed engine.
Vehicles converted to 100% electric drive, with all power supplied by on-board batteries are considered in compliance with the engine change requirements. All fuel system components must be removed prior to inspection. For additional information contact the ARB helpline at (800) 242-4450
After an engine change, vehicles must first be inspected by a state referee station. The vehicle will be inspected to ensure that all the equipment required is in place, and vehicle will be emissions tested subject to the specifications of the installed engine.
07-24-2012, 07:01 AM
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^^ 
I know!
I have no problem owning up if my car does have an illegal swap (I truly think/thought its an OK swap). His explanations as to why, I didnt buy. When I questioned why and what is legal, he said I could put a older motor in my car.....I asked him to show me where it was illigal, he couldnt at the time. 5min of searching and I came up with the above link.
From there on, I didnt trust a word he said and felt he was reaching trying to find ANY reason. He also tried to justify the fail by asking why my car is named an "s2000".... I said hold on...DO YOU know?
"Because its a 2.0." ...then why is a 2004+ STILL called an s2000??!!
I told him his reasoning was NOT relevant and made no sense...whic he did agree.. ..-_-
And it wasnt just the simple fact that he failed me on the swap, I really got pi$$ed off on how he conducted his business. Smelt like beer....smoked while working/talking to me and the best part, he would put me on the dyno, then do the visual only to fail me.....not once but twice lol
First time he put me on the dyno an all was good. Popped my hood and failed me for one hose. I had to go to the auto store and buy 6" of hose.
Put me on the dyno again, pass and then proceeds to fail me AGAIN because of the engine...WFT. Just do the visual first and dont waste my time and yours.
BTW, Identical defined
"having such a close similarity or resemblance as to be essenitially the equal or interchangeable."
^^ from this I would say the swap IS legal.
This why Im asking if anyone has gone through this before...these two motors are identical, but not exact.
Ive also read somewhere before that the motor can be a bigger displacement..but I cat seem to find it anywhere
I know!I have no problem owning up if my car does have an illegal swap (I truly think/thought its an OK swap). His explanations as to why, I didnt buy. When I questioned why and what is legal, he said I could put a older motor in my car.....I asked him to show me where it was illigal, he couldnt at the time. 5min of searching and I came up with the above link.
From there on, I didnt trust a word he said and felt he was reaching trying to find ANY reason. He also tried to justify the fail by asking why my car is named an "s2000".... I said hold on...DO YOU know?
"Because its a 2.0." ...then why is a 2004+ STILL called an s2000??!!
I told him his reasoning was NOT relevant and made no sense...whic he did agree.. ..-_-
And it wasnt just the simple fact that he failed me on the swap, I really got pi$$ed off on how he conducted his business. Smelt like beer....smoked while working/talking to me and the best part, he would put me on the dyno, then do the visual only to fail me.....not once but twice lol
First time he put me on the dyno an all was good. Popped my hood and failed me for one hose. I had to go to the auto store and buy 6" of hose.
Put me on the dyno again, pass and then proceeds to fail me AGAIN because of the engine...WFT. Just do the visual first and dont waste my time and yours.
that motor DOES NOT belong in your car. Just because that motor does come from another s2000 Doesn't mean it will pass smog without other paperwork. From my undertanding you need to take your car to the state ref and get that car BAR'd with that motors info EX. vin # You are going to have the matching 2.2 ECU. It will not pass BAR with the AP1 ecu.
"having such a close similarity or resemblance as to be essenitially the equal or interchangeable."
^^ from this I would say the swap IS legal.
This why Im asking if anyone has gone through this before...these two motors are identical, but not exact.
Ive also read somewhere before that the motor can be a bigger displacement..but I cat seem to find it anywhere