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Old May 9, 2014 | 02:33 PM
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In other news, is the flat four really dead in the water? When I first read that I thought "good, they are dumping that silly 4 cyl idea" but this article seems to say they are getting inline fours instead. WTF? no, Porsche, bad, very bad. Will they rename the Boxster if they switch to inline engines

Straightster? Inlinester? i-roadster?

Why do I feel like I am always late to the party? Buying a big v8 after always having 4 cylinders and now everyone is switching to 4 cylinders like its the hot new thing.

I had to laugh out-loud at this:

Mueller said last year that Porsche was considering a successor to the Porsche 550 Spyder, which could launch by 2014. Since then, the executive backed down, claiming Porsche is concerned that such a car might somehow water down the company’s name. In spite of these worries, the German automaker plans to add an entry-level crossover to its lineup, the Volkswagen-Tiguan-based Macan.
A cheaper sports-car (it wouldn't be THAT cheap) waters down Porsche's brand name and the Macan doesn't? Gimmie a break. Having said that, I actually do like the Macan, for what it is, a hot-rod Audi Q5.

Last thought, has anyone noticed that Motor Trend, in an attempt to be "first", spreads the most untrue rumors of any auto review outfit?
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Old May 9, 2014 | 03:05 PM
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^ a water downed sports car doesn't help them that much both in terms or prestige and profit. A macan (& cayenne) at least makes them a crap ton of money and lets them still make low volume sports cars
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Old May 10, 2014 | 05:47 AM
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Cayman needs to be smaller and lighterweight way more than it needs to have more power. The idea that a smaller lighter-weight Porsche would "water down" the brand shows just how far they've gone in the WRONG DIRECTION.
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Old May 10, 2014 | 06:32 AM
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I think asking over 100 grand for a car with a 4 cylinder turbo is setting themselves up for disappointment.
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Old May 10, 2014 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ZDan
Cayman needs to be smaller and lighterweight way more than it needs to have more power.

Pretty much what the Alfa 4C is aiming at. I kind of want to drive one of those, even though the Cayman appeals to me more. Be nice if Alfa offered some kind of Italian delivery program.

I wish the Japanese would also put something in the $45k-$55k segment like a Supra. Right now I have my heart set on a new Cayman, but I only get to drive the toy here about 3000 miles a year and that is a lot of money to spend for that kind of use. I have 40k on an 01 S2000. Kind of hard to justify getting rid of it when it costs me $300 a year to drive for tabs and insurance when compared to Porsche payments.
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Old May 10, 2014 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by vader1
Originally Posted by ZDan' timestamp='1399729663' post='23153470
Cayman needs to be smaller and lighterweight way more than it needs to have more power.

Pretty much what the Alfa 4C is aiming at. I kind of want to drive one of those, even though the Cayman appeals to me more. Be nice if Alfa offered some kind of Italian delivery program.
While I love cars like the Elise/exige/4C, most people don't want those cars and these companies lose tons of money. A cayman type of car appeals to a broader group of buyers. The new boxster/cayman is an amazing car. Handles great while having a very DDable interior & comfort. While having amazing build quality
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Old May 10, 2014 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ZDan
Cayman needs to be smaller and lighterweight way more than it needs to have more power. The idea that a smaller lighter-weight Porsche would "water down" the brand shows just how far they've gone in the WRONG DIRECTION.
Lighter than 3000 lbs? Won't happen with today's standards.
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Old May 10, 2014 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by iLuveketchup
A bit OT, but is the Cayman R a good buy? I'm in the market and the last model yr Cayman S or R is in the radar. Just wished the newer Caymans were smaller.
They have held their value really well. Better than normal versions. Probably not a bad buy if your worried about depreciation
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Old May 10, 2014 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ZDan
Cayman needs to be smaller and lighterweight way more than it needs to have more power. The idea that a smaller lighter-weight Porsche would "water down" the brand shows just how far they've gone in the WRONG DIRECTION.
Porsche can either
1. listen to a very few hard-core enthusiasts and make a car that's "smaller and lighterweight way more than it needs to have more power". Probably sells about few hundred units, like the Elise. Lay off workers b/c make cars that won't sell. Share holders and Board members lose money.

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2. listens to broader market and people who actually buy Porsches. Make the Cayman like it is now. Sells tens of thousands units. make profit for everyone - share holder, workers, board members.

doesn't seem like "WRONG DIRECTION" to me.
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Old May 11, 2014 | 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by vader1
Originally Posted by ZDan' timestamp='1399729663' post='23153470
Cayman needs to be smaller and lighterweight way more than it needs to have more power.

Pretty much what the Alfa 4C is aiming at. I kind of want to drive one of those, even though the Cayman appeals to me more. Be nice if Alfa offered some kind of Italian delivery program.

I wish the Japanese would also put something in the $45k-$55k segment like a Supra. Right now I have my heart set on a new Cayman, but I only get to drive the toy here about 3000 miles a year and that is a lot of money to spend for that kind of use. I have 40k on an 01 S2000. Kind of hard to justify getting rid of it when it costs me $300 a year to drive for tabs and insurance when compared to Porsche payments.
Exactly. I'd love to have a C7 but with my annual insurance and tags running ~$5-600 a year, very hard to justify spending that much if not more on a new C7 per month. Both the xB and the Astro (don't laugh, it's got 300k and runs like new) are paid off and I can't justify monthly payments on a C7 now. I kinda want the Astro to die but all I do is add oil and gas and she keeps running.
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