Not that these things puts the car ahead of the rest.

How do you think the NSX, technologically, compares to the Supra? or GTR? And why would people buy those instead of the NSX based on technological advantages?

 

Steve C is not a troll here, he has an S. Do you? Excuse me if I'm wrong.

However, Steve is probably in a better position than most of us to compare the NSX to sports cars of today. I do agree it is dated, I do think its slow and overpriced for the performance, but car enthusiasts may not care for that like how some people feel about a 1984 Ferrari 308 or classic cars.

Of course, some NSX fanboys would probably call the 308 a heap of crap anyway because its even older and slower.

 

http://www.angelfire.com/nt/pvj62/tommy.html

Manufacturer: Tommy
Year: 1996
Powertrain Layout: Mid-engine, Rwd.
Weight: 730 kg
Engine: Inline-4, dohc, 4v/cyl.
Displacement: 1998c.c.
Horsepower: 185 hp
Torque: 142 lbft
Transmission: 5-spd Manual
0-60 mph: 4.8sec (claimed)
Top Speed: 140 mph (Claimed)
Price: n/a


http://www.fast-autos.net/tommykaira/tkzztwo.html

Price: $---,---
Miles Per Gallon: --/-- mpg
Curb Weight: est 1500 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/AWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Engine
Type: Twin-Turbo Inline-6
Displacement: 2568 cc
Horsepower: 550 bhp @ ---- rpm
Torque: --- lb-ft @ ---- rpm
Redline: ---- rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 3.3 sec
0-100 mph: -.- sec
Quarter Mile: --.- sec @ --- mph
Skidpad: .--g
Top Speed: 210 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph: --- ft
Slalom Speed: --.- mph

 

Not Z06s but base Vettes. A base C5 Vette is not much, if at all, faster than a 3.2l NSX.

911 C2s and C4s, base C5 vettes and NSXs are all high 12 to very low 13 second cars. I know that you believe that the NSX has been outdated for a long time, but if you look at the actual numbers, its only become outdated with the C6 vette and the 997. From a performance perspective, it took 15 years. And the 997 is way more dough than a NSX, and the new Vette, while a fantastic example of progress, competes against NSXs more on paper than it does for buyers.

And I disagree that 996 C2s or C4s outperform NSXs; I suggest those are drivers races.

Furthermore, when I recently bought my 02 NSX, I did not believe that I was paying a premium against a used 02 996 C4. The price was the same - and I believe that the NSX is the better car.

 

-100%. I don't think any of "us" think a NSX can compete with a Z06, let alone a C6.

 

You are thinking of US numbers. Globally, the NSX has sold more than 9000 at last count. Since the is essentially the same and the engine is the same, one can compile euro NSX reliability data with U.S. data with Japanese data.

 

I do not think anyone has missed the point of this thread. I simply think some of us do not think the car is all that dated.

In the 15 years it has been around it has developed a decent fan base and gained some nostalgia. Who is to say Honda does not have a new one ready locked away in some factory. I heard from an NSX Prime regular that they have invited a select group of previous owners out to some secret location to test drive the "next" NSX. So why dont we sit back and see what happens.

Not everyone buys a something for the "cutting edge" of technology and innovation. Rolex is by no means the best watch out there by far, but, I really want a 1999 gold Daytona.

There is always going to be a better, cheaper, stronger, faster, newer, flashier, lighter something out there. BUY WHAT YOU WANT TO but do not belittle people for having an opinion that differs from yours. The start of this thread asked a simple question, to those of you that have spun this into a diatribe of hate, let the issue be and see what everyone else has to say.

This bashing has got to go because persoanlly I would like to hear what everyone else has to say.

 

The car is dated. However it seems that Honda will not be replacing it. That means our choice (not that we really have a choice mind you) is between the old,much maligned dinosaur NSX that some people inexplicably love, or NOTHING.

They might as well keep building the antique. As long as they can find those 50 buyers, why not? Who cares? Is anyone's life suddenly enriched by the death of the NSX?

 

I believe it took 15 years for NSXs to become outdated. It took 997s and C6 vettes to do it also. Before those cars were introduced, NSXs were being sold for no more than 996 C4s, performed no less then either but yet had remained somewhat unchanged (although I would suggest that the 3.2l with the 6sp was a major upgrade) for 15 years.

How could such a tragedy as a car that was a decade ahead of its time become outdated 15 years after it was introduced happen?

I dont care about the technology. I dont care about what year it was designed. I care about rough performance numbers, value for the dollar, reliabililty, cost of ownership and style.

Performance - on par with 996s on most if not all measures.
Value - priced no more than 996 C4s, so while its alot of dough, its inline based upon most direct competition.
Reliability - we will see. I suggest its better than a Ferrari 348.
Cost of ownership - depreciation is low. Maintainance is low. Cost should be low.
Style - totally subjective. I love it, especially the 02+s

 

Some of you must choose to be thick.

When was the last time anyone here used the "back seats" in a 911? That's what I thought. When was the last time you did the same in even a Mustang or Camaro? Just because a car can "fit" 4 people doesn't mean it's intended to do anything of the sort in any meaningful capacity.

As for the person who wrote this:

You're a special kind of dumb. Any student of history would note that the most sought after American cars, many of which sell at auction for many times what your precious NSX teddy bear costs list, were made after WW2. It's only been since Nixon that American cars started eating crow on an unfortunately regular basis.