let me put a slightly different perspective on this. my all time favorite car is the 3rd gen RX-7. Adjusted for inflation a new 1995 would cost probably 50-60K today. If Mazda continued importing the FD after 1995 and there was a 2004 available for 55k would I get it over a 30K 350Z or a a 45K vette...yea, probably...

would a 2004 FD be outdated? yea, so it's not the newest kid on the block...it's not king of the hill anymore. it's performance/price is not the greatest...

but, does it still look good? yes. does it still perform well enough? yes. does the buyer still like the car? yes. does it still have more "character" than the other cars? yes.

we would all love for honda to make a new NSX, but the constant "only an idiot would pay 90K for an NSX while you can get a Vette for 45K" is so hackneyed.

if an accord cost 80k and you could get a nice e55 for the same price, then yea, go ahead and say "only an idiot would pay 80k for an accord."

but reasonable people can reasonably come to the conclusion that an NSX is worth 80K.

 

Steve C

Can you tell me eactly what year did porsche made CD as a standard equipment in the 996?

 

I'd have to agree that the NSX does look quite dated especially the interior. But those aren't that important in sports cars. Some of you guys are picking straws here. You can compare the Corvette's interior to the NSX and claim it to be the worst, but guess which car everybody wants to drive home, the Corvette of course. Its cheaper AND faster which makes it a smarter choice for anyone looking to buy either car.

The NSX should be around $38-$45k (second hand base model) if not cheaper.

 

I'm not really even talking about you personally Purple_sky, as you have not been involved in other "discussions" about Steve C. You tend to sound less fanboi than others.

 

I too found that all of these arguments against the NSX were easy to make, that is until I went looking for a new car.

I wanted something
1) priced alongside a 02ish 911,
2) performed 911ish
3) was reliable
4) looked killer (subjective)
5) was fun to drive.
6) mid/rear engine
7) but was not a 911

I came up with two cars. An 348 or a 02 NSX. I figured that the NSX was a slightly better car in the early 90s than the 348, so a new NSX with a 6sp and the 3.2L would be a *noticeably* better performer than the early 90s 348. My NSX also has a warranty, does not require heart stopping engine outs and has, IMO, the looks to boot.

My NSX cannot compete with a new 997, but it can easily with a 996. It being priced alongside a used 02 C4S made it a very easy decision for me. Are there things that I would/will change? Absolutely. Am I suprised Acura didnt change these 10 years ago? Im shocked. Were they enough to keep me away from buying my NSX? Not even close.

Its a wonderful car. Overpriced at list, but no one pays that.

 

Yeah, for a 15 yr old design it's a nice car, but why would you buy a 15 yr old design if you don't have too? That is the point.

 

Thanks, if we can work out something that would great fun.

 

There are 2 points here:

1) Is the NSX outdated ? Yes.

But I've said before, if BMW sold the e36 M3 today that car would still be a great car. Outdated, yes but still great. Etc... great cars don't stop being great, but they aren't as fresh as they once were. Not as many people want an NSX as they did 14 years ago. They're not new and noteworthy like they were. But they're still great.

2) Is the NSX overpriced? Yes again. We'll all agree I think if they can only sell 300/year something isn't working and nothing that a $30K rebate won't help. If they were leasing it as a $50K car why can't they sell it as one? The residual on the lease was $48K (I think) so there was not much incentive to lease then buy b/c you'd be spending the same as if you had bought it for $90K

 

We should know there are cars that people see as overpriced. I can think to some the S2000 is over priced, Boxster, Elise, 997 S, F430 etc...

You can probably match numbers with cheaper cars. Like an EVO MR or C6. Heck a Mustang GT is as fast as a 645Ci.

But to a lot of us, "bang for the buck" is not the reason we buy a car.

Some people would probably ROFL if you told them an Elise costs $42K, with non-power steering, manual windows, no cruise, no carpet, small 4-banger engine. They'd say heck you can get 400hp C6 for same price.

 

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about but I respect your opinion.