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Originally Posted by omgitsoop,May 29 2008, 11:05 PM
thats what i was thinking, then i saw the weight. oh well, like a tc, but rwd. im down with the price.
tc = 160hp at 2900lbs
This car is 220hp at 2800lbs + rwd....
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Either way, this article contradicts every other rumor we have heard about the car, even what the dev's told Moto-P when discussing the car to him(what little he was allowed to mention).
Also Triple-H makes a very good point. Plus, it is Toyota that needs a cost effective sport car in their line up as they have pretty much nothing now except a GT luxury sedan and an upcoming exotic. Subaru has the STi and the WRX, both of which are for the most part reasonably affordable.
I like the thought of it benchmarking with a honda type-r car, but I wish they would bench is closer to honda's new super hothat..sadan(:/) the Civic Type-R. And at 28000lb's, I dunno, I'm sure thats great and all but it kind of kills the enthusiasm. :/
And I still don't care for the idea of a boxter engine in this thing.
Also Triple-H makes a very good point. Plus, it is Toyota that needs a cost effective sport car in their line up as they have pretty much nothing now except a GT luxury sedan and an upcoming exotic. Subaru has the STi and the WRX, both of which are for the most part reasonably affordable.
I like the thought of it benchmarking with a honda type-r car, but I wish they would bench is closer to honda's new super hothat..sadan(:/) the Civic Type-R. And at 28000lb's, I dunno, I'm sure thats great and all but it kind of kills the enthusiasm. :/
And I still don't care for the idea of a boxter engine in this thing.
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Originally Posted by samerthehammer,May 29 2008, 10:05 PM
the LF-A is the new supra and as S2Kxphile stated they are under the lexus badge not toyota.
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Originally Posted by Saki GT,May 30 2008, 12:57 PM
What do you have against boxer engines?
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Originally Posted by AnointedDC5,May 29 2008, 02:43 PM
Here is another rendering I found, not so aggressive but I don't really care for it.
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/Anointeddc5/rwd-subaru-coupe.jpg)
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Also, dumping AWD in favor of RWD only somewhat helps the mileage front. You still have the extra weight of the propshaft and final drive. You also have the frictional losses associated with a 90 turn in the dirrection of power. This means that all else equal your mileage will still be lower than an otherwise similar FWD design.
I for one would love to see more RWD, low cost, economic cars. However, I would rather have a properly designed FWD than a poorly designed RWD car. Hopefully my pesimisim is unfounded.
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Originally Posted by nickbw,May 30 2008, 07:06 PM
More complicated and I can't imagine it isn't heavier in 4cyl package. boxer6+'s, fine but I just don't see the point in boxer4's for cars. Hopefully I'm uninformed and the boxer4 will be brilliant and prove it's worth in all aspects with or with out manufacturer hype.
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Originally Posted by Saki GT,May 30 2008, 03:35 PM
Boxer engines are less complicated, typically lighter than cylinder counterparts, and offer lower center of gravity. They are a superior design to say an I4, but you have to have the chassis for them, as they are wider and usually cost more to make.