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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by fishfryer
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Meh I cannot think of a single one I have liked the look of. There are many other brands I would like to see here in the US over Saab.
Not even the Sonett? Everybody likes the look of a Sonett.



Ok well I can honestly say I have never seen either of those cars. But looking at a classic car is different. I bet they are still a nightmare to work on and there is a very very long list of classics I would buy over a Saab. Those do look nice but I rather have a cobra (replica or real) over those.
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 08:16 AM
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The original 900 was popular for a few reasons. It was relatively powerful and efficient. That turbo 4 moved out smartly compared to most cars of the time. It also was good in the snow (FWD and all that jazz).
The 900 was Saab's standout product for me and the benchmark. The CFO I worked for from 1989-1993 had one in black and I loved that car. I remember climbing in for the first time and being amazed at the passenger room and that cavernous rear hatch in a car that had a unique profile but was still attractive. It was a great car for ski trips. And the there were the personality touches like the ignition switch in the floor that made great conversation pieces. I guess I'm just disappointed that they didn't maintain that level of unique design. For me, that's what made Saab worth considering.

If it's any consolation, Ford did no better charting a course for Volvo, Land Rover, Jaguar, or Aston Martin. Both companies just seemed to have no idea what to do with the historic brands they acquired. Now, Saab is dead, Volvo is Chinese, Jaguar and Land Rover are Indian owned, and Aston Martin is a tiny boutique operation again. I don't see anything but Aston surviving much longer. I wouldn't touch any current product from Volvo, Jag, or LR. There are just too many good alternatives. I'm thinking they all join Saab in the graveyard of historic European brands within a decade.
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Manga_Spawn
Originally Posted by fishfryer' timestamp='1324389608' post='21250584
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Meh I cannot think of a single one I have liked the look of. There are many other brands I would like to see here in the US over Saab.
Not even the Sonett? Everybody likes the look of a Sonett.



Ok well I can honestly say I have never seen either of those cars. But looking at a classic car is different. I bet they are still a nightmare to work on and there is a very very long list of classics I would buy over a Saab. Those do look nice but I rather have a cobra (replica or real) over those.
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I've worked on some SAABs. They didn't seem to be much better or worse than most FWD cars. Mind you I was working on mid 90s vintage SAABs.
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by SpudRacer
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The original 900 was popular for a few reasons. It was relatively powerful and efficient. That turbo 4 moved out smartly compared to most cars of the time. It also was good in the snow (FWD and all that jazz).
The 900 was Saab's standout product for me and the benchmark. The CFO I worked for from 1989-1993 had one in black and I loved that car. I remember climbing in for the first time and being amazed at the passenger room and that cavernous rear hatch in a car that had a unique profile but was still attractive. It was a great car for ski trips. And the there were the personality touches like the ignition switch in the floor that made great conversation pieces. I guess I'm just disappointed that they didn't maintain that level of unique design. For me, that's what made Saab worth considering.

If it's any consolation, Ford did no better charting a course for Volvo, Land Rover, Jaguar, or Aston Martin. Both companies just seemed to have no idea what to do with the historic brands they acquired. Now, Saab is dead, Volvo is Chinese, Jaguar and Land Rover are Indian owned, and Aston Martin is a tiny boutique operation again. I don't see anything but Aston surviving much longer. I wouldn't touch any current product from Volvo, Jag, or LR. There are just too many good alternatives. I'm thinking they all join Saab in the graveyard of historic European brands within a decade.
I too miss the classic 900. I really wish someone made that sort of car today. An entry level luxury fastback hatch.

I think Ford did do better with Volvo, Jag and Rover and Aston. The cars they are coming out with today are cars that were started under the Ford watch. Ford put the companies on solid ground and they are still making good products. However, I wouldn't claim that is was a financial win for Ford.

I'm not likely to touch either of the Brits because right now they are too expensive for what I want. I will consider a Volvo in the next few years (used as a second car).
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 08:48 AM
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Well I thought and still think this is a BEAUTIFUL car.






Everytime I see one I stop and stare.

On a side note - in my experience "Saab people" are usually pretty interesting. That said - it must carry HUGE appeal with the gay/lesbian crowd. I spent the summer in Provincetown and it seemed like every other car was a Saab.
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 09:02 AM
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these cars look much better than the new nissan's and mazda's...
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by rnye
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On a side note - in my experience "Saab people" are usually pretty interesting. That said - it must carry HUGE appeal with the gay/lesbian crowd. I spent the summer in Provincetown and it seemed like every other car was a Saab.

Most of the Saab's I've seen have been in the Northeast. Maybe it's a regional thing, kind of like how Subarus are really popular in Vermont.

I do know someone with an '86 Saab which they'll never get rid of, they love the how much interior space it has without being a wagon or SUV.
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by rnye
Well I thought and still think this is a BEAUTIFUL car.






Everytime I see one I stop and stare.

On a side note - in my experience "Saab people" are usually pretty interesting. That said - it must carry HUGE appeal with the gay/lesbian crowd. I spent the summer in Provincetown and it seemed like every other car was a Saab.
I really like that car as well... and I'm happy to hear that you think I'm interesting
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 03:14 PM
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saab to me is like the hipster of cars...different just to be different. I've never found them to be very good at anything. It seems like in every category they competed in there were 3-4 other cars that were better in pretty much every way. Not a fan. Not sad to see them go.
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Penforhire
So, making jets doesn't mean dick if you want to make cars?
i agree, "the born from jets" bs is just that how can you "make" a vehicle with that line when all you did was change the sheet metal, and put a keyswitch on the center console?
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