Goodbye Saab
saab to me is like the hipster of cars...different just to be different. I've never found them to be very good at anything. It seems like in every category they competed in there were 3-4 other cars that were better in pretty much every way. Not a fan. Not sad to see them go.
Originally Posted by s2kpdx01' timestamp='1324426487' post='21252230
saab to me is like the hipster of cars...different just to be different. I've never found them to be very good at anything. It seems like in every category they competed in there were 3-4 other cars that were better in pretty much every way. Not a fan. Not sad to see them go.
Personally, Saab interiors were pretty darn good even during the GM era. I appreciated their visually simple, well executed lay out, the leather quality was always really good, exterior design got a bit dated but sorta handsome. Not surprised to see them go. Think about it this way, one of their most iconic cars was a fwd turbo hatchback which would go against the focus st, ms3s, etc etc of today. That's really no car to hang your hat on. In the end, Saab had a very small following and really no appeal outside of that. These days, you either have to offer a solid bargain, a very luxurious piece of marketing, or a competitive performance car, in terms of cars, and saab really didnt have a niche in any of those categories. They werent bargains (new) and not known to be solid, their name didnt really have any cache at the country club, and their greatest performance offering was a fwd hatch. Unlike Mini, people generally hated the designs.
In the end, there werent enough people who would respond Saab when asked the question what car are you thinking about getting next.
In the end, there werent enough people who would respond Saab when asked the question what car are you thinking about getting next.
Originally Posted by s2kpdx01' timestamp='1324426487' post='21252230
saab to me is like the hipster of cars...different just to be different. I've never found them to be very good at anything. It seems like in every category they competed in there were 3-4 other cars that were better in pretty much every way. Not a fan. Not sad to see them go.
Originally Posted by rockville' timestamp='1324448110' post='21252871
[quote name='s2kpdx01' timestamp='1324426487' post='21252230']
saab to me is like the hipster of cars...different just to be different. I've never found them to be very good at anything. It seems like in every category they competed in there were 3-4 other cars that were better in pretty much every way. Not a fan. Not sad to see them go.
saab to me is like the hipster of cars...different just to be different. I've never found them to be very good at anything. It seems like in every category they competed in there were 3-4 other cars that were better in pretty much every way. Not a fan. Not sad to see them go.
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Wanting a luxury hatch isn't about being different, it's about utility. I don't want an SUV. I know from experience you can put a washing machine in the back of a SAAB hatchback! (fully inside, hatch closed)
Originally Posted by s2kpdx01' timestamp='1324448438' post='21252880
[quote name='rockville' timestamp='1324448110' post='21252871']
[quote name='s2kpdx01' timestamp='1324426487' post='21252230']
saab to me is like the hipster of cars...different just to be different. I've never found them to be very good at anything. It seems like in every category they competed in there were 3-4 other cars that were better in pretty much every way. Not a fan. Not sad to see them go.
[quote name='s2kpdx01' timestamp='1324426487' post='21252230']
saab to me is like the hipster of cars...different just to be different. I've never found them to be very good at anything. It seems like in every category they competed in there were 3-4 other cars that were better in pretty much every way. Not a fan. Not sad to see them go.
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Wanting a luxury hatch isn't about being different, it's about utility. I don't want an SUV. I know from experience you can put a washing machine in the back of a SAAB hatchback! (fully inside, hatch closed)
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Yeah, I agree. I never understood the stigma that developed against the hatch as a design solution for sedans other than it's common use in entry level vehicles. It's still a great solution for providing a lot of utility in a vehicle smaller and lighter than an SUV. And that's really all most people need. Personally, I'd rather drive a nice hatch based sedan than a small SUV. I can't believe it's impossible to design a good looking mid-high level sedan with a hatch. I wonder if and when we'll ever see another one?
Originally Posted by rockville' timestamp='1324474136' post='21253270
[quote name='s2kpdx01' timestamp='1324448438' post='21252880']
[quote name='rockville' timestamp='1324448110' post='21252871']
[quote name='s2kpdx01' timestamp='1324426487' post='21252230']
saab to me is like the hipster of cars...different just to be different. I've never found them to be very good at anything. It seems like in every category they competed in there were 3-4 other cars that were better in pretty much every way. Not a fan. Not sad to see them go.
[quote name='rockville' timestamp='1324448110' post='21252871']
[quote name='s2kpdx01' timestamp='1324426487' post='21252230']
saab to me is like the hipster of cars...different just to be different. I've never found them to be very good at anything. It seems like in every category they competed in there were 3-4 other cars that were better in pretty much every way. Not a fan. Not sad to see them go.
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Wanting a luxury hatch isn't about being different, it's about utility. I don't want an SUV. I know from experience you can put a washing machine in the back of a SAAB hatchback! (fully inside, hatch closed)
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Yeah, I agree. I never understood the stigma that developed against the hatch as a design solution for sedans other than it's common use in entry level vehicles. It's still a great solution for providing a lot of utility in a vehicle smaller and lighter than an SUV. And that's really all most people need. Personally, I'd rather drive a nice hatch based sedan than a small SUV. I can't believe it's impossible to design a good looking mid-high level sedan with a hatch. I wonder if and when we'll ever see another one?
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I Europe they have plenty. The closest examples I can think of in the US were the Mazda6 hatch which was hard to tell from the sedan and the SAAB 9000 hatch which again looked very sedan like. I used to have a Contour SVT. In Europe that same SVT engine and suspension was put on the hatch version of the car to make the ST200. The current Mondeo is a hatch and looks very good to me.
I guess since not enough Americans demand it, it makes sense to go for the cheaper and structurally stronger sedan. Still, I wish I had more options as the only 5 door hatches I can think of are either "short wagons" like the Golf or Focus or cost big bucks like the A7 and Porsche sedan.
I thought the 9-3 Viggen was fun (buddy of mine had one), if a bit of vehicular lunacy due to torque steer. Still, a unique car and pretty handy to own overall (lots of room, decent power, lots of torque, etc, etc).
Otherwise, not much to miss...
Otherwise, not much to miss...






