GTR vs 911
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now the question is, are both drivers in the same league? the only person i recognized on that video clip was tsuchiya san.
i wonder what the outcome would be if tsuhiya san drove the 911.
i wonder what the outcome would be if tsuhiya san drove the 911.
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1. Did no one notice that the 911 was an automatic?
2. The 911's driver kept putting the car sideways at corner exit, severely limiting his speed down the following straights, and pretty much dooming himself.
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Originally Posted by PedalFaster,Jan 15 2008, 01:55 AM
1. Did no one notice that the 911 was an automatic?
2. The 911's driver kept putting the car sideways at corner exit, severely limiting his speed down the following straights, and pretty much dooming himself.
Seems like he was over-driving the 911 tho.
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interesting i thought Jeremy Clarkson said the TT still pulls the GTR on the autobahn...maybe not till very very high speeds...
porsche is definitely the more difficult car to drive. with the best drivers respectively in both cars i wonder what the outcome would be...i'm very sure with all the technology and wizardry any average Joe in either car will have the GTR come out on top every single time.
porsche is definitely the more difficult car to drive. with the best drivers respectively in both cars i wonder what the outcome would be...i'm very sure with all the technology and wizardry any average Joe in either car will have the GTR come out on top every single time.
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I think Porsche is at a cross-road. Are they going to be Aston Martin-like? Or are they going to do something with the price/performance gap that exists?
I am talking about:
Cayman S costs same as the Z06
911S costs $90K with similar performance to the $45K Vette
911 turbo costs $130K with similar performance to a $70K GTR
I am not saying the Porsche cars are bad, but it's possible for other cars to catch-up. Given time it's possible the Vette will be more than just a great car "for the money".
Back to the late-80s early 90s Porsche had a 240hp front engine 968 which was priced at $50K (ish) with the arival of RX-7, 300ZX, Supra, NSX etc.. the Porsche may have seemed overprice or underpower. Also in the past Porsche has had down turns when people didn't feel they were worth the price and sales numbers were about a tenth of what they are now. It's possible their $20K unit profits are going to grate on people by charging extra for HIDs in a $80K car for example.
I hope Porsche has some products in the work that will be more than just a slight 10hp power bump for the Cayman S or the 911S with largely unchanged structure.
Porsche has the chance being lower weight in the market, if their cars to switch to low weight materials (such as the Z06 has for it's frame). I think the future belongs more than just big power which we have next should be cutting vehicle weight and Porsche has a head start with it's cars being lower weight to begin with with conventional steel structure a switch to more aluminum could do wonders.
cutting weight means you could get more performance for less fuel and substantial dynamic benifits as well with smaller tires, brakes etc..
I am talking about:
Cayman S costs same as the Z06
911S costs $90K with similar performance to the $45K Vette
911 turbo costs $130K with similar performance to a $70K GTR
I am not saying the Porsche cars are bad, but it's possible for other cars to catch-up. Given time it's possible the Vette will be more than just a great car "for the money".
Back to the late-80s early 90s Porsche had a 240hp front engine 968 which was priced at $50K (ish) with the arival of RX-7, 300ZX, Supra, NSX etc.. the Porsche may have seemed overprice or underpower. Also in the past Porsche has had down turns when people didn't feel they were worth the price and sales numbers were about a tenth of what they are now. It's possible their $20K unit profits are going to grate on people by charging extra for HIDs in a $80K car for example.
I hope Porsche has some products in the work that will be more than just a slight 10hp power bump for the Cayman S or the 911S with largely unchanged structure.
Porsche has the chance being lower weight in the market, if their cars to switch to low weight materials (such as the Z06 has for it's frame). I think the future belongs more than just big power which we have next should be cutting vehicle weight and Porsche has a head start with it's cars being lower weight to begin with with conventional steel structure a switch to more aluminum could do wonders.
cutting weight means you could get more performance for less fuel and substantial dynamic benifits as well with smaller tires, brakes etc..
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Originally Posted by PedalFaster,Jan 14 2008, 10:55 PM
1. Did no one notice that the 911 was an automatic?
2. The 911's driver kept putting the car sideways at corner exit, severely limiting his speed down the following straights, and pretty much dooming himself.
I also second Tsuchiya driving the 911.