I wonder how many people knew this:

I read in a BMW dealer brochure for the new V8 M3 that the M3 coupe will come with a Carbon fiber roof???


when I first read that I was like wow.....baller

 

rai, I was actually responding to OnehotS2k's first sentence in his post just before yours. (should have used the quote)

If you want to bash the Cayman, feel free to do so. It's not my offspring, so my feelings won't be hurt. It's also not for everyone, and I like the open exchange of opinions on all sorts of cars here....even when I don't agree.

 

I have read nothing but good things about the Cayman (CAR magazine and EVO magazine both say how great they handle and how they are just the right size etc..) but as a point UK and US are different countries and I can see points for both the M3 or Cayman depending on what you need.

I have a S2000 and if getting a M3 I could keep it as a counterpoint while the Cayman strikes me as a S2000 replacement (I would not keep the S2000 if I got a Corvette or Boxster or Cayman).

 

you say that again, you'll be banned from every car forum on earth... for 414 years... and it will pass to subsequent generations...



guys regarding the M3's torque curve... i wasnt saying its higher than an RS4's... an RS4 has slightly more displacement... its expected that it has more... an obivously its a superbly built engine... i was meaning... its hard to maintain a decently high flat curve, on a high RPM engine... (theyre mostly going up or down) without a large amount of displacement or F/I.. however, with just the right fine tuning, both the flat torque, and the high rpm/high HP can be attained... and thats what BMW did... (same with Audi)...

 

[QUOTE=Iceman1,Dec 13 2007, 07:30 PM]you say that again, you'll be banned from every car forum on earth...

 

[QUOTE]We're admittedly smitten over the new BMW M3 coupe and have passed along every morsel of information we've come across over the past few months. With the new M3 officially unveiled, however, the only real question left unanswered is how much it will cost. Today we've learned that if you live in Her Majesty's kingdom, a new 2008 BMW M3 coupe will cost you

 

There's no accounting for different tastes, needs, etc. in cars.

I was interested in the 335i and E46 M3 around the time I got my CS, but while they're great cars, I couldn't stomach them as replacements for my S2000 (my wife said she'd get sick on Hill Country drives in the 335 due to the extra suspension movement).

Aside from the lack of rear seats, the Cayman is as daily usable as an M3 IMO. It's comfy, has good outward visibility, reasonable ride/noise levels, and lots of cargo capacity.

I wanted to keep my S2000 as a counterpart when I bought the CS, but had no extra garage space and wasn't willing to leave the S2000 outdoors. No loss, as after the CS was broken in, I realized the S2000 wouldn't have gotten much use anyway.

Part of me really wants to like the M3, but another part just leaves me cold for some reason. I'll have to drive one when they hit the US to draw my own conclusions, but it's not very compelling as long as I don't need rear seats (even kids won't change that, since we have an Avalanche and a Jetta TDI).

 

however, with just the right fine tuning, both the flat torque, and the high rpm/high HP can be attained... and thats what BMW did...

The previous two M3 engines had similar characteristic. ie. flat torque curve between ~3000 and 7000rpm.

 

I totally agree and that's my philosophy.

I was just replying to the people who think car mag racing by professionals somehow applies to their usage on the street.

I think I'd rather have a Cayman S than a GT-R for the "fun" car.

Now for the dedicated daily driver... that's a different story.

 

And a fair number of those people miss their S2000s and wind up going back to one....