sam_spider

I liked the DSG in my S4 and didn't miss the manual at all.

I'm okay with flappy paddles in modern sports cars. I'd switch the S2000 over if I could.

adrs2k

I have a DSG in my Audi S3 and love it. I don't miss shifting when I am driving the Audi, however when I climb back into the S2000 I do still enjoy heal toeing and rowing gears.

CosmosMpower

Meh it's super boring, got bored with the one in my E90 M3 and the one in my R35 GT-R. Manuals for me.

mosesbotbol

Yup. The paddles are boring. I just assume keep it in auto at that point.

vader1

Previous gen V8 M3? Can be had for far below $50k if looking for a second car. My local BMW dealer is selling BMW performance center current gen M3 & 4's for close to $50k with about 5,000 tough miles on them.

suzuka_indy

SSSSShhhhhh..... I'm wearing my invisibility cloak

CosmosMpower

50K? Send me the link

RedCelica

Im thinking more towards an "on track" experience than tooling around on the street.

Just searched autotrader for a 2015-2017 M3 for under $50k @ unlimited distance...nada. Lowest is around 55k

Sterling Sackey

If you want the best dual clutch within your budget, it'll be a used Cayman.

vader1

just looked, cheap ones are gone. They have a couple with original stickers of $87k for $66k, but the lower optioned ones have been snatched up, and they were $55k I think.

http://www.motorwerksbmw.com/detail-...-15242732.html

But here is a low mile 2009 DCT V8 for $36k for the OP

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used...ting=147295808


Personally, I have never put many miles on a good paddle shift. Recently drove a 718 Boxster S with PDK and just let it pretty much go full auto. I have paddle shifters on my 3 series "sport" transmission that are not PDK fast or DCT fast but they are much quicker than standard auto fare and I got bored with them real fast. I use them occasionally to drop two gears when I want to pass and then flick the gears back up, but they end up being more of a hassle than they are fun IMHO.

I also have (yes super nerdy) a Fanatec wheel for Forza video games and when having the choice to use the optional manual clutch pedal and shifter or the paddles, the shifter is always more fun. I even prefer the manual when geeking out in the virtual world of dork racing.

The only way I go paddle shift is for a daily that the wife can drive and I use in stop and go winter traffic. Otherwise I loves me them clutches and stick shifts.