Let's talk about (FIAT) Chrysler!
04-13-2016, 02:12 PM
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You'd be better off if you read it. Remember they buy these cars off the showroom floor, they're not manufacturer "built" models for the press to swoon over. They're tested by engineers, not magazine salesmen. Maintenance data comes from owners, not dealers.
If CU says the cars are crap, they're crap. They're not blinded by "enthusiasts" visions of what's kool or not. Make your own decisions on performance but CU will note the cars that are slow, drive, or shift poorly or have dismal reliability. They liked the new Miata while noting it's completely impractical.
-- Chuck
If CU says the cars are crap, they're crap. They're not blinded by "enthusiasts" visions of what's kool or not. Make your own decisions on performance but CU will note the cars that are slow, drive, or shift poorly or have dismal reliability. They liked the new Miata while noting it's completely impractical.
-- Chuck
04-13-2016, 03:12 PM
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04-13-2016, 05:25 PM
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It's too bad FCA doesn't really have a fuel efficient small car like every other maker has available. I don't think the Fiat 500 fits the bill.
I bought a Jeep Cherokee 1.5 years ago, Consumer reports went to town condemning this vehicle every which way possible. I've pounded it with 70k kms in the time period without a single defect to report. It's probably the only vehicle I've owned that has not had a manufacturer defect within the first year, and I've owned countless Hondas, Fords, BMW's. Hopefully it will remain reliable, time will tell but I put it under more extreme use than your average consumer. I'm quite impressed with the 2.4L motor and 9 speed tranny, fuel economy has been great, it runs very smooth and quiet and pretty comfy. It doesn't burn a drop of oil between oil changes, and oil changes are quite long.
I bought a Jeep Cherokee 1.5 years ago, Consumer reports went to town condemning this vehicle every which way possible. I've pounded it with 70k kms in the time period without a single defect to report. It's probably the only vehicle I've owned that has not had a manufacturer defect within the first year, and I've owned countless Hondas, Fords, BMW's. Hopefully it will remain reliable, time will tell but I put it under more extreme use than your average consumer. I'm quite impressed with the 2.4L motor and 9 speed tranny, fuel economy has been great, it runs very smooth and quiet and pretty comfy. It doesn't burn a drop of oil between oil changes, and oil changes are quite long.
04-13-2016, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by rob-2' timestamp='1460510274' post='23936345
Long term Dodge is performance, Chrysler luxury, FIAT economy and Alfa niche Italian performance.
Dodge should have SRT'd the Dart with AWD. Would have sold.
Dodge should have SRT'd the Dart with AWD. Would have sold.
Well, if Dodge is performance, they have three cars. (not minivans,trucks,crossovers) The slated to be cancelled Viper, the Charger and the Challenger. That will be down to two.
For the first quarter of 2016, the Charger is the 43rd best selling car. The Challenger is the 77th. Try to name 76 models and that is how many sell better than the Challenger, Hellcat or no Hellcat.
Chrysler has the 300 after the 200 is scrapped. Hardly a brand. And except for my now deceased grandfather, I don't know anybody who answers "Chrysler" when you say, "Name a luxury auto brand."
Fiat, the brand supposed to help with the fuel economy standards in the corporate umbrella has 2 cars in the top 200 models so far this year, the 500x at number 170, and the 500 at number 173. Both models have sold less than 4,000 units each for the year so far.
Except for Jeeps, Minivans and Crossovers, it is a giant pile of turds. If gas were to spike again, the house of cards that their auto portfolio is based on will need a bailout very fast.
They have never been a big player
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