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Old 03-27-2013, 09:05 PM
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An F20C redlines at 9000RPM. Does an S2000 running 10PSI generate over 300ft/lb of torque just above 2000 RPM? 'course not.

Assuming the engine is built to handle it I don't see why this cant be somewhat reliable. The engine is made by hand and probably built to exacting tolerances and with beefy components. Something tells me its probably about as reliable as my Mazdaspeed 3 with perhaps 300bhp after basic bolt ons. Only time will tell.
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Drivetrain sucks, engine is awesome and the looks are great except that it looks like Snorlax sat on the trunk



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great job Mercedes. I love this car. Just look at the seats! gorgeous!
I'm a big fan of CLS. Now the CLA is just as good as CLS without the price tag.
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Originally Posted by budgy
An F20C redlines at 9000RPM. Does an S2000 running 10PSI generate over 300ft/lb of torque just above 2000 RPM? 'course not.

Assuming the engine is built to handle it I don't see why this cant be somewhat reliable. The engine is made by hand and probably built to exacting tolerances and with beefy components. Something tells me its probably about as reliable as my Mazdaspeed 3 with perhaps 300bhp after basic bolt ons. Only time will tell.
S2000 is a high compression high revving motor that was not designed with FI in mind. The motor in the Benz is probably low compression designed for longevity.
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The S2000 also in part makes good power with low boost because of its high static compression. In any event it seems we agree, they are just totally different engines; I just get sick of Honda fanboys having to compare everything to the greatness that is Honda, the untouchable god of the automotive world
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Originally Posted by CosmosMpower
Originally Posted by budgy' timestamp='1364447126' post='22433848
An F20C redlines at 9000RPM. Does an S2000 running 10PSI generate over 300ft/lb of torque just above 2000 RPM? 'course not.

Assuming the engine is built to handle it I don't see why this cant be somewhat reliable. The engine is made by hand and probably built to exacting tolerances and with beefy components. Something tells me its probably about as reliable as my Mazdaspeed 3 with perhaps 300bhp after basic bolt ons. Only time will tell.
S2000 is a high compression high revving motor that was not designed with FI in mind. The motor in the Benz is probably low compression designed for longevity.
It's also probably tuned for low end torque, which the F20 most certainly is not.
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Awww a baby cls how cute
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Originally Posted by budgy
The S2000 also in part makes good power with low boost because of its high static compression. In any event it seems we agree, they are just totally different engines; I just get sick of Honda fanboys having to compare everything to the greatness that is Honda, the untouchable god of the automotive world
Lol, it was hardly a fanboy comment. The f20 is 14 years old so pardon me for pointing out that those numbers seem a bit off, especially when you break it down to wheel horsepower after it goes through 4matic AWD. If you think that reliability is an issue for 350-400 horses on the f20 I suggest you visit the FI induction side of the forums more often.

Here's hoping it can actually achieve its target 40+ mpg.
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no coupe , no interest.
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Originally Posted by R3D L1N3
Originally Posted by budgy' timestamp='1364484790' post='22434663
The S2000 also in part makes good power with low boost because of its high static compression. In any event it seems we agree, they are just totally different engines; I just get sick of Honda fanboys having to compare everything to the greatness that is Honda, the untouchable god of the automotive world
Lol, it was hardly a fanboy comment. The f20 is 14 years old so pardon me for pointing out that those numbers seem a bit off, especially when you break it down to wheel horsepower after it goes through 4matic AWD. If you think that reliability is an issue for 350-400 horses on the f20 I suggest you visit the FI induction side of the forums more often.

Here's hoping it can actually achieve its target 40+ mpg.
Those numbers arn't off at all. You can't compare two very very different engines.

And there aren't too many reliable Turbo'd s2ks even at only 350-4000 whp. Most owners do a lot of their own work and have to always fix small issues. And I still haven't seen too many Turbo'd s2ks that can take the abuse/heat of tracking their car. While I bet this cla could do it all day long


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