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Old Jan 26, 2015 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DaGou
* Dragsters reach over 300 MPH +... before you have completed reading this sentence.

* In order to exceed 300 MPH in 4.5 seconds, a dragster must accelerate an average of over 4 G's.

4.5 seconds to read that sentence?!!!!!
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Old Jan 26, 2015 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.E.G.
This list was making the rounds when Pythagorus was in diapers.
Guess that is your theory...

Good one though, I will have to remember that one.
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Old Jan 26, 2015 | 04:25 PM
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Not sure how accurate this is, but:

http://science.howstuffworks.com/aircraft-carrier3.htm

"This totally steam-driven system can rocket a 45,000-pound plane from 0 to 165 miles per hour (a 20,000-kg plane from 0 to 266 kph) in two seconds!"

The post above says "0 to 200 MPH in 2.2 seconds (the first 350 feet of the run)"; I think that's comparable to the catapult, if not slightly faster acceleration.
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Old Jan 26, 2015 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by windhund116
" Quicker than a jet fighter plane. "

Jet Fighter taking off on land? Or from an Aircraft Carrier? An A/C acceleration is dependent on the steam catapult. Not totally, the jet's engines.

I doubt the acceleration is better than a F/A 18, once the plane is in air, at combat altitude.
Perhaps 20 years back Air and Space magazine had an article about just such a competition. Top fuel dragster vs catapult launched A-6 Intruder. The two were side by side on a ground based catapult. The article was actually really funny. The jet won but that had a lot to do with poor traction for the car. Based on what I know of Top Fuel dragster acceleration the jet would have no chance at least initially. The peak acceleration of the car is simple higher as is the effective thrust to weight ratio.

We had a similar thread a while back (great video)
https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/980...tion-top-fuel/
From Paul Van Valkenburgh.

Horsepower measured from the driveshaft torque (actual measured power, not estimated or dyno) was 6000hp off the line and peaks just under 8000hp.

Engines run 40% more fuel than they can burn. The extra fuel is used to cool the motor. 70gpm flow rate but the fuel pumps are variable to control power. It takes 30hp to drive the pump.

It takes almost 800hp to drive the air pump. For calibration a 1700lb flywheel is spun to 8000 RPM then engages a clutch driven overdrive that spins the supercharger 11,500RPM. Peak boost is about 50psi.

Downforces: As the car starts the tires wind up and the rear of the car drops. Almost immediately afterwards the rear starts to rise as the tires grow. The lifting of the rear of the car can add an extra 2000lb of downforce on the contact patch for a fraction of a second. The force of the exhaust can knock a person near the engine off balance.
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Old Jan 27, 2015 | 03:41 AM
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If youve never been to a top fuel race. You need to go. It isnt all that exciting after a few but the noise...
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Old Jan 27, 2015 | 03:48 AM
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I've read this before, really interesting; but a TF dragster is only nominally a "car", might as well compare a car to an RPG round.

Originally Posted by Mr.E.G.
This list was making the rounds when Pythagorus was in diapers.
Back in his day, wasn't all clothing effectively diapers?
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Old Jan 27, 2015 | 05:58 AM
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Pretty cool post. The two things i took out of it:

1) With 3000 CFM of air being rammed in by the supercharger on overdrive, the fuel mixture is compressed into a near-solid form before ignition.
WTF, thats insane, i can't even mentally picture what is going on in this scenario

2) When comparing a fighter jet to the dragster - the tires of the dragster have to be able to handle the insane G force the engine is trying to deliver to allow the car to move forward... the jet fighter doesn't have that friction piece to solve for
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Old Jan 27, 2015 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Gigdy
If youve never been to a top fuel race. You need to go. It isnt all that exciting after a few but the noise...
I went to a NHRA event in WA last year and was shocked at how loud and insanely fast they are. Literally could not see straight when they went down the strip due to the vibrations. The pits are pretty cool as they are testing them and no one can stand there as eyes start watering. Wouldn't go again but glad I saw them at least once, definitely a much greater appreciation for them now. Can't imagine driving one! And yes one blew up, was pretty crazy and scary.
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Old Jan 28, 2015 | 03:41 PM
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Meh, slow.

http://www.space.com/27990-rocket-sl...man-alive.html

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Old Jan 29, 2015 | 03:56 AM
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read the same thing about 10 years ago. but it was a moto gp bike instead of a vette passing by at 200mph
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