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Old Sep 12, 2016 | 10:12 AM
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That makes a lot of sense. I have never really understood the allure of the GTR (or 240 for that matter). I don't even think they are particularly attractive, but clearly the masses disagree!
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Old Sep 12, 2016 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by dat boi
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I think when the R34 GT-Rs become legal stateside, they will probably sell for around 80-100k USD for a clean, low mile example. In case anyone is wondering and if I didn't mention it already, my R32 cost around mid-20k to buy. I could have bought cheaper if I was okay with a gray, modified car with no history, but, because this was a close-to-stock single owner car with maintenance records, there was a slight premium, as expected.
For that money I would take a brand new one with modern technology and a warranty!
I can see where you are coming from, but having had both the R32 and the R35 at the same time, I wouldn't. The R35 is very capable, but the driving experience is too muted and it doesn't take much skill to go fast and is therefore somewhat characterless. In contrast, driving a Skyline GTR is an experience almost no other car can provide. It's very rare, has an amazing engine capable of providing R35 levels of acceleration with some massaging, and has unique handling characteristics due to HICAS and first gen ATTESA AWD that require a bit of driving skill to fully extract their performance.

After having the R35 for a few months and tracking it at Road Atlanta, I felt that I experienced everything that car had to offer. Its performance is very impressive and accessible to most drivers, making it too good for its own good, if that makes any sense.
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I disagree about the R35, did you drive it with all the nannies turned off? The car has so much power you can get into trouble very quickly especially if you give it too much gas coming out of some corners. It's not the hardest car in the world to drive but it doesn't 'drive itself' like many magazines and youtube videos imply.
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Old Sep 12, 2016 | 02:22 PM
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dat boi any idea what kind of lap times you were turning at Road Atlanta in the R35?
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Old Sep 13, 2016 | 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by rwheelz
dat boi any idea what kind of lap times you were turning at Road Atlanta in the R35?
The fastest lap I had was 1:40.569 in a completely stock car (even brake fluid and tire pressure remained stock) with 4k mile old factory Dunlops. I think I could get into the 1:38's as it was my first time at Road Atlanta and I was getting faster every session and ran my fastest time when others were about a second slower than their best time. I'd like to see what other GTRs do out there as the only comparison I had was another R35 on Michelins and a few other mods that ran 1:41.498.
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Old Sep 13, 2016 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by CosmosMpower
Originally Posted by dat boi' timestamp='1473655056' post='24060014
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I think when the R34 GT-Rs become legal stateside, they will probably sell for around 80-100k USD for a clean, low mile example. In case anyone is wondering and if I didn't mention it already, my R32 cost around mid-20k to buy. I could have bought cheaper if I was okay with a gray, modified car with no history, but, because this was a close-to-stock single owner car with maintenance records, there was a slight premium, as expected.
For that money I would take a brand new one with modern technology and a warranty!
I can see where you are coming from, but having had both the R32 and the R35 at the same time, I wouldn't. The R35 is very capable, but the driving experience is too muted and it doesn't take much skill to go fast and is therefore somewhat characterless. In contrast, driving a Skyline GTR is an experience almost no other car can provide. It's very rare, has an amazing engine capable of providing R35 levels of acceleration with some massaging, and has unique handling characteristics due to HICAS and first gen ATTESA AWD that require a bit of driving skill to fully extract their performance.

After having the R35 for a few months and tracking it at Road Atlanta, I felt that I experienced everything that car had to offer. Its performance is very impressive and accessible to most drivers, making it too good for its own good, if that makes any sense.
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I disagree about the R35, did you drive it with all the nannies turned off? The car has so much power you can get into trouble very quickly especially if you give it too much gas coming out of some corners. It's not the hardest car in the world to drive but it doesn't 'drive itself' like many magazines and youtube videos imply.
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I left the T/C in R mode at Road Atlanta which led to a good amount of slip if I mashed the go-pedal at the wrong time.

I really wanted the R35 to be more than what the YouTubers imply. I wanted this car to be full of character and theater, but it just isn't. It is a perfect car for most people because it's capable of being a good daily driver while delivering world-beating performance at the hands of an average-Joe like me. I greatly praise its performance and prowess on the road and track and I think it's an engineering feat to be able to deliver said performance in a package as comfortable and compliant as the new GTR and make it accessible to most drivers, but at the end of the day, there is a robotic nature to the car that hinders its image.
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Old Sep 13, 2016 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by dat boi
Originally Posted by rwheelz' timestamp='1473718971' post='24060616
dat boi any idea what kind of lap times you were turning at Road Atlanta in the R35?
The fastest lap I had was 1:40.569 in a completely stock car (even brake fluid and tire pressure remained stock) with 4k mile old factory Dunlops. I think I could get into the 1:38's as it was my first time at Road Atlanta and I was getting faster every session and ran my fastest time when others were about a second slower than their best time. I'd like to see what other GTRs do out there as the only comparison I had was another R35 on Michelins and a few other mods that ran 1:41.498.
Here's a list. 1:40 seems ok for a bone stock car. Turn the R mode off if you want the full nature of the car to come out, those little slides can easily turn into 180's off the track at triple digits if you're not careful.

http://www.gtrlife.com/forums/topic/...time-database/
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Old Jan 17, 2021 | 06:31 PM
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Still kicking around
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^Took the car to Buttonwillow about a year ago for R's Day in 2019 and ran about the same time as my S2000, ~2:05.xx. Pretty fun to see how each car excels at different things. The S2000's limit of grip is higher, but the R32 accelerates better and is much easier to drive.
The R32 was on 255/40/17 Dunlop Direzza Z2 star specs and the S2000 runs 255/35/18 Advan AD08R's.
It's a ton of fun on the track, but does lack brakes and starts to get hot after 2-3 hot laps. The only cooling upgrade at this time is a Koyorad radiator. I have an oil cooler waiting to be installed, so that will help significantly.
Next on the list are brakes and different wheels/tires. The TE's are sold, and the CE's will be replaced soon as well.


This joined the stable for DD duty late last year. For comparison, it laps Buttonwillow CW13 at 2 minutes flat on old A052's. Hoping to dip into 1:58 range with a fresh set of tires and more seat time.
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