So if my software was not "turned on" to fool the EPA, it wont be fixed and can still operate in non compliance with the EPA rules.

Or if it is in compliance, why the "trick" software in the first place?

Hmmmm..

 

It would seem to me that the only way to "fix" the problem without affecting performance or fuel economy would be fit the same system they fit on larger displacement diesel engines, which would be the use of Diesel Exhaust Fluid. Most trucks and other heavier duty diesel systems (including Benz's blutec) use DEF. The VW engines were one of the only vehicles that didn't use DEF which I always found interesting. Our Diesel which is only a 3L uses it as does the larger Audi diesel, Porsche diesels and all the domestic diesels in trucks.

I suspect the refit will include having to fit new converters along with DEF systems.

 

If it passes emissions in "testing" mode, they may just lock it into testing mode at all times. Seems "simple" enough, and certainly inexpensive in terms of physical labour to do the repair/change.

Then they just have to deal with all the owners that are ticked off that they're no longer getting the same fuel mileage.

 

A friend of mine who owns a jetta tdi told me she has two choices. Let them add in the diesel exhaust fluid and have some changes made to the interior (probably the trunk) in order to accommodate the system. Or there will be a new tune that could drop power by as much as 30%.

There is also a class action lawsuit getting started that she may join in on. They are asking for a full refund of the cost of the car when it was new.

 

Or, just stay the heck away from VW dealerships

 

Pretty sure each state will not allow renewal of vehicle registration without proof of modification to meet emissions.

 

How much did you buy and at what? I'm looking at dumping my TSLA and going POAHF but it looks like its not bottomed yet (At $42 now).

 

Do we have any examples/case law to back that up? That seems like quite the burden to put on the state/consumers considering they didn't do anything wrong...

Some states/counties don't even do emissions testing, so why would they care?

 

Does she have any official documentation stating that? I'd be interested to know that, since VW has been tight-lipped thus far about what a fix entails.

Of course, those 2 options are what those of us with any sort of engineering background/know-how assumed from the start. So one of the two seems likely, though I'd be surprised if VW actually offers vehicle owners a choice. Either way, they're gonna get suited by owners (and with good reason).

 

Germany stated it would ban 2.8 million VW diesels unless VW presented a plan to fix, and I'd bet the same thing would happen in US states. It looks like VW will have to do a few things including software update, something like urea injection system, plus buybacks and fines.