Bugger - 3 points on the licence... (rant content)
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From: Plymouth
Originally Posted by stormcloud,Apr 2 2007, 10:20 PM
It highlights how the road law has not kept pace with the safety and handling of modern cars
More children on bikes; more animals; more slow moving vehicles and plant; poorer quality roads; more pedestrians and pedestrian crossings; greater
volume of traffic...
There is a hell of a lot more to concentrate upon when driving today, than
there was ten years ago.
So, hardly surprising we are seeing a drive for slower speeds now.
It has little to do with how great your car is, only how poor the average driver is.
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And an easy win for politicians.
They've fooled the population into thinking slow = safe (as demonstrated by a lot of people around here who drive at 20-30mph in NSL's and flash their lights if you dare to overtake them without breaking the speed limit).
Slow is NOT safe necessarily. Fast is NOT necessarily dangerous.
However its an easy win for the politicians so more and more slow speed limits creep in.
They've fooled the population into thinking slow = safe (as demonstrated by a lot of people around here who drive at 20-30mph in NSL's and flash their lights if you dare to overtake them without breaking the speed limit).
Slow is NOT safe necessarily. Fast is NOT necessarily dangerous.
However its an easy win for the politicians so more and more slow speed limits creep in.
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cars are more capable
drivers aren't
inappropriate speed results in many accidents
'inappropriate' usually means too high not too low
in the overwheming majority of cases, it is simplicity itself to drive about within speed limits
but this is often rather dull......
drivers aren't
inappropriate speed results in many accidents
'inappropriate' usually means too high not too low
in the overwheming majority of cases, it is simplicity itself to drive about within speed limits
but this is often rather dull......
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From: Stanmore
Originally Posted by gaddafi,Apr 3 2007, 09:18 AM
cars are more capable
drivers aren't
inappropriate speed results in many accidents
'inappropriate' usually means too high not too low
in the overwheming majority of cases, it is simplicity itself to drive about within speed limits
but this is often rather dull......
drivers aren't
inappropriate speed results in many accidents
'inappropriate' usually means too high not too low
in the overwheming majority of cases, it is simplicity itself to drive about within speed limits
but this is often rather dull......
I drive within speed limits on anything up to 50mph roads (if I exceed the limits , I'm aware that it's my choice and I accept the penalty should I get nicked). Yes, it is quite dull, but it's not that hard, remember, one has to be able to do it to pass the test.Given the shocking standards of driving which caused mainly by attitudes rather than by a lack of skill, it's probably a good thing that the majority are being slowed down.
It's a shame that brilliant drivers such as me
have to obey the limits set for the majority...
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Schools and Hospitals for example are plain and simple, you do not drive above the speed limit set (whatever that may be).
Ultimately the main comments from all this are correct, standards of driving by a lot of drivers I see are poor, and the lowest common denominator is the idiot driver in the rust bucket who has no insurance or MOT anyway. We all have to drive within the limit as the road system in place is nowhere near granular enough to calculate who is a great, good, poor or idiot driver.
If the police officer had said "look, I know that you can drive safely at above 70mph but everyone has to obey the same limit as we cannot guess who is and is not a safe driver" then I would have appretiated it a lot more than the boy racer look he gave me.
Sad really, need to book a trackday or buy a smart car and put a goverment black box in it.
Ultimately the main comments from all this are correct, standards of driving by a lot of drivers I see are poor, and the lowest common denominator is the idiot driver in the rust bucket who has no insurance or MOT anyway. We all have to drive within the limit as the road system in place is nowhere near granular enough to calculate who is a great, good, poor or idiot driver.
If the police officer had said "look, I know that you can drive safely at above 70mph but everyone has to obey the same limit as we cannot guess who is and is not a safe driver" then I would have appretiated it a lot more than the boy racer look he gave me.
Sad really, need to book a trackday or buy a smart car and put a goverment black box in it.
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From: Hertford
Originally Posted by dreamer,Apr 2 2007, 07:07 AM
Pisses me off too.
We just got the local Tory newsletter (polling day coming up in May) and he's going on about lowering all the speed limits and strictly enforcing them to make our roads safer.
Excuse me- if the roads aren't safe perhaps we should look at why, and make them safer (visibility, crossings, lights, etc. etc.), rather than just blindly reducing speed limits.
I mean if the crashes are because people are speeding then the current speed limit isn't the problem (i.e. it's not because people crash while they are doing the speed limits).
Slow does NOT equal Safe !
We just got the local Tory newsletter (polling day coming up in May) and he's going on about lowering all the speed limits and strictly enforcing them to make our roads safer.
Excuse me- if the roads aren't safe perhaps we should look at why, and make them safer (visibility, crossings, lights, etc. etc.), rather than just blindly reducing speed limits.
I mean if the crashes are because people are speeding then the current speed limit isn't the problem (i.e. it's not because people crash while they are doing the speed limits).
Slow does NOT equal Safe !
And we get a Tory getting off on the ignorance/brainwashedness of the battery-thinkers.
A14; newish D/C, low traffic density. Ideal place to rape money out of people.
The motorised prams HATE it when they put a talivan near a school, 'cos they all get done!
Like John say, it was only 94 (my speedos are surprisingly accurate around that speed!) and it could have been a LOT worse.
It's probably less stress than being turned over for your mobile phone too (although you are allowed to maim the perpetrators in that instance).
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