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God yes, its way too complex.
Especially the long term rest times which BOM was asking about.
AFAIK you can 'inherit' qualification if you already had a C+E before that date.
But I'm not 100% on that to be honest.
A bit like the old 'Grandad' licence.
We had an old boy on our books who never took a test.
He had some great tales of hauling carrots from Cornwall to London markets in a stripped out double decker bus!
Especially the long term rest times which BOM was asking about.
AFAIK you can 'inherit' qualification if you already had a C+E before that date.
But I'm not 100% on that to be honest.
A bit like the old 'Grandad' licence.
We had an old boy on our books who never took a test.
He had some great tales of hauling carrots from Cornwall to London markets in a stripped out double decker bus!
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Originally Posted by m1bjr,Jan 3 2011, 12:23 PM
I would also expect the Transport Manager to hold a CPC too.
And be trained to a higher level.
This is normal, some companies sub contract that job out for simplicity.
I was a Manager for a transport company BTW - but a good few years ago
The CPC is only needed for newer licences, after sept 2009 IIRC.
It DOES include tacho legislation as part of the training, that much I do know Russ.
BOM I would pay a specialist for advice.
An remember the Working Time Directive might also affect you too...
And be trained to a higher level.
This is normal, some companies sub contract that job out for simplicity.
I was a Manager for a transport company BTW - but a good few years ago
The CPC is only needed for newer licences, after sept 2009 IIRC.
It DOES include tacho legislation as part of the training, that much I do know Russ.
BOM I would pay a specialist for advice.
An remember the Working Time Directive might also affect you too...
I'm sending the Workshop Service Manager on the CPC Holders course in February and as both the drivers have had their licences for a while they have to have done it by 2014 as far as I'm aware.
In the meantime, I think it might be a good idea to get someone in to show us the ropes and what it means for our business as we are all reading 'the rules' different ways.
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Good plan. It would me more economical to farm it out tbh.
If there is another friendly company nearby with own facilities then perhaps you can work a deal.
Maintenance seems the hot potato with VOSA right now.
And I see a lot of inspections going on compared to a few years ago.
You have to have a maintenance plan in place and keep it documented.
I used to run about in Ryder trucks and vans and we were often pulled over for checks - mainly for O Licence verification.
You have digital tachos?
This might help:
http://www.roadtransport.com/Articles/2007...er-launched.htm
If there is another friendly company nearby with own facilities then perhaps you can work a deal.
Maintenance seems the hot potato with VOSA right now.
And I see a lot of inspections going on compared to a few years ago.
You have to have a maintenance plan in place and keep it documented.
I used to run about in Ryder trucks and vans and we were often pulled over for checks - mainly for O Licence verification.
You have digital tachos?
This might help:
http://www.roadtransport.com/Articles/2007...er-launched.htm
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Both lorries have analogue tachos and they are checked but it's only a manual check to make sure speed and breaks are correct. I've purchased for them driver guard machines which should make it easier to read the information and easier for them to track their hours rather than using a log book.
With regards to VOSA and checks, we have a W reg lorry and that gets pulled quite a bit as it's carrying plant and they immediately suspect stolen. We don't mind them pulling and checking because one day it might be!
With regards to VOSA and checks, we have a W reg lorry and that gets pulled quite a bit as it's carrying plant and they immediately suspect stolen. We don't mind them pulling and checking because one day it might be!
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