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Old Jul 4, 2011 | 11:04 AM
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Oh rubbish, I don't get ESPN Classic! Gutted.
Old Jul 4, 2011 | 12:50 PM
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I'll be at Silverstone for the quali, looking forward to it!
Old Jul 8, 2011 | 02:50 AM
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2011 British Grand Prix




DRS Detection Zone - 25m before Turn 3
DRS Activation Zone - 45m after Turn 4.




Location: Silverstone, England

BBC Coverage:
Friday 8 July:
  • Practice one - 0855-1035
  • Practice two - 1255-1435

Saturday 9 July:
  • Practice three - 0955-1105
  • Qualifying - 1210 (Q1 - 1300)

Sunday 10 July:
  • Race - 1210 (Race Start - 1300)

(All times BST)



The British Grand Prix. With a brand new pit and paddock complex, and a new start/finish straight (just after Club), we could see a very interesting start to the race. Hamilton, Button and Di Resta will all be looking to impress on Sunday, with both Hamilton and Button hoping for a 1-2 finish.

Friday practice is likely to be wet, Saturday looks cloudy but dry, but most importantly Sunday could be an exciting mixture of rain and a dry track. After what seemed a borefest at Valencia, we could, if we're lucky, be in for a thrilling race at Silverstone!

The main topic of the weekend will be how much Red Bull been affected by the ban on blown diffusers. Will Red Bull remain top dog, or will the winning wave shift to McLaren or Ferrari? Can Hamilton or Alonso revive their challenge for the title? Perhaps the most important question is.. can Vettel be stopped?

Sorry, completely forgot!
Old Jul 8, 2011 | 03:27 AM
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My Italian friends firmly believe that the new reg changes will handicap the Red Bull this weekend, personally I think it will be business as usual.

What do you all think ?
Old Jul 8, 2011 | 06:00 AM
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No idea, I was going to make a prediction based on practice today but they were both wet so no idea how fast any of the cars are as it is not a true reading.

I think Red bull will still be strong but Quali won't be the walk in the park it normally is for Vettel. I think Mercedes, McMerc and Ferrari all have a chance of the front two rows now.
Old Jul 8, 2011 | 08:08 AM
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Silverstone map above, allied to associated DRS Iinformation are spectacularly useless!
Old Jul 8, 2011 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by ianl
Silverstone map above, allied to associated DRS Iinformation are spectacularly useless!
Abbey is turn 1, so DRS is along the National Straight.
Old Jul 8, 2011 | 10:21 AM
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Politics have already started at the British Grand Prix!

Christian Horner and Martin Whitmarsh have had a heated public argument over the latest FIA changes to the ruling on banning the exhaust gas blown diffusers. Essentially, Renault can now have 50% throttle open on the over run and Mercedes cannot. Mercedes obviously now think that Renault engined cars have an advantage and it is another case of the farce of the FIA at work.

From the BBC

McLaren and Red Bull team bosses Martin Whitmarsh and Christian Horner have engaged in a public row over the latest rule changes.

F1 bosses have restricted the use of exhausts to generate downforce, but the rules have changed after pressure from Red Bull's engine supplier Renault.

Whitmarsh fears Red Bull now have an advantage and complained the situation was "cloudy, ambiguous and changing".

Horner said governing body the FIA had been "right, fair and equitable".

In the same news conference, Team Lotus boss Tony Fernandes described the situation as "a little bit of a shambles".

Horner and Whitmarsh argued over which team had been given the biggest advantage following the latest in a series of rulings aimed at limiting a practice called off-throttle blowing of the diffuser, which has become a key issue in F1 in the last year.

This is where teams blow exhaust gases over the rear floor of the car even when the driver is not pressing the accelerator, smoothing the airflow and therefore increasing downforce and grip.

Horner said Renault had objected to an earlier ruling because it had given the Mercedes-powered teams, including McLaren, an advantage over Red Bull.

Whitmarsh believes Red Bull now have an advantage after the latest change.

The issue has been complicated by the fact that all engines work differently, so it is impossible to impose a uniform ruling.

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As far as we understood, before Renault were allowed their parameters, there was a significant advantage going to any Mercedes-powered team
Christian Horner
Red Bull team boss
Renault and Red Bull had objected to a decision by the FIA to allow Mercedes to introduce fuel on the over-run - when the engine is being used for braking.

Although the engine is reduced to running on only four of its eight cylinders at this point, this will inevitably lead to some blowing of the diffuser, and therefore the creation of some downforce.

Renault, by contrast, does not fuel its engine on the over-run and argued that it should be allowed to compensate by opening the throttles to a specific amount, something it says it has always done to ensure reliability.

The FIA has accepted Renault's argument and the French company will now be allowed to run its engines on 50% throttle when the driver is not pressing the accelerator.

This has angered their rival teams, as the initial intention of the ruling was to limit throttle opening to 10% when the driver lifts off.

The public argument between Horner and Whitmarsh was prompted when BBC Sport asked in an official news conference how, under these circumstances, it could be guaranteed that all teams were competing on an equal footing.

Horner said: "As far as we understood, before Renault were allowed their parameters, there was a significant advantage going to any Mercedes-powered team."

Whitmarsh said the ruling meant a "very substantial performance benefit" for Renault.

Horner disputed that, saying: "Let's not make any mistake here. Firing on over-run, the thrust that that generates through the exhaust, generates a bigger effect. Let's just be absolutely clear on that."

Whitmarsh said he expected Renault's rivals to go back to the FIA to demand that they, too, be allowed to introduce air through open throttles on corner entry.

Both men agreed that the FIA should have changed the rule at the end of the season to avoid the controversy on what Horner described as a "massively complex subject".
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/form...e/14076892.stm
Old Jul 8, 2011 | 11:15 AM
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I thought fuelling on the overrun was exactly what they were meant to be banning. They're right about enforcing the change at year end; that's the only way to be fair.

I was just sitting down to watch the practice, and it's not there. It's on iPlayer on my laptop, just not on the TV version. I hate the BBC.
Old Jul 8, 2011 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by lovegroova
Originally Posted by ianl' timestamp='1310141280' post='20759784
Silverstone map above, allied to associated DRS Iinformation are spectacularly useless!
Abbey is turn 1, so DRS is along the National Straight.
Er, my understanding is, corners number clockwise (race direction) from the start/finish i.e. Pits Straight.

So Copse is turn 1 (always has been) and DRS is along the Hangar Straight.

i.e. detection at Becketts, activation after Chapel.




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