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Old May 9, 2015 | 08:07 AM
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Even though my bessie mate has one of these '86's, I've tried so hard to like it. Plus - he's had some issues with the brakes too (scraping noises) which turned out to be inferior pads fitted at the factory. He still has an issue with the bonnet bouncing at speed(faulty latch) and a squeak from the rear which remains a mystery and cannot be found. These though are mere teething issues of a new model, and expected.
The fact the interior is flimsy and a bit mis-matched, it raises a grimace for me. And that rear end just isn't right.
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Old May 9, 2015 | 04:57 PM
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Squeaks and bouncing bits at speed upset him? Don't ever let him near any Lotus, ever. He may start self harming .
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Old May 11, 2015 | 07:36 AM
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When I introduced my said friend to my S2000 (2000MY) in 2003, he was gobsmacked at the induction noise, acceleration and snickety 'box. I was certain one day he'd buy one and trade in his Navy, 4 year old (at the time) 200SX.
I suppose the '86 is as near as you get with a tin top but only 75% of the excitement. Keeping the S on the road was always part of the challenge, especially if you had one of the early ones wearing SO-2's that were half worn.
Toyota rushed the interior on these, no question about it. At least they got the seating position right!

If I was choosing this car or the new MX5 (horrid front lights), the Mazda would get my vote.
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Old May 12, 2015 | 11:29 AM
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Also needs better tyres; the McP jacking/jouncing is never gonna feel as precise as the double-wishbones, but I think the soggy-froggy sidewalls on the Michelins do rob it of some precision. Actual grip is fantastic, though.
The first one I test drove was a TRD with the 18" wheels and Yokohama something tyres (not AD08s) and one of the things that impressed me was how sharp everything felt, and especially the feedback through the wheel compared to the S2000 (always a bit numb). This one with the Primacy tyres felt a lot more rubbery, though despite the reputation of Prius tyres didn't seem to be lacking grip. No desire for 18s, but I'm sure I'll end up going back to Bridgestone as I always do on every car. Same size as the front of the S, so RE002s.

McPhearson struts is the only slightly disappointing thing from an engineering nerd point of view. With the engine so low, surely there would have been plenty of room for an upper wishbone.
Handy to know; if these bloody Premacies ever wear out, it'll be AD08s or RE002s.

DWs might impinge on the engine bay width; the engine is pretty tight in there and needs to come out to change the plugs.

But the real reason is the entire front end is an old Impreza with the lower-arms reversed and the rack mounted forward. The rear end is an old Impreza too. Stick a Toyota body on top and it's as expedient a way of creating an affordable sports car as its antecedent, the Porsche 924: VW 1303 suspension/transaxle and an LT engine...
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Old May 12, 2015 | 12:22 PM
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Its better than it being a parts bin of a Renno Chiffon 1.1

By a long feckin chalk imho
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Old May 13, 2015 | 08:01 AM
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A hoop and a stick is probably preferable to any Reno...
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Old May 13, 2015 | 12:54 PM
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I thought mine was on Primacys all round, but obviously I didn't look close enough as the rears are Excelon something or other. Fronts are quite well worn Primacys so I'll probably chuck the whole lot away at some point and buy something decent.

I'm struggling to like the rumbly unresponsive engine, though when you get it going it does feel quite a lot faster than the S. The biggest problem is I want to stare at it all day, and then I don't get any work done.
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Old May 17, 2015 | 10:45 AM
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I think the slow throttle response is the inevitable result of the very long induction tracts on a boxer four. The only one I've driven that was sharp was an Alfasud Ti.

Maybe someone ought to do a throttle body kit?
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Old May 18, 2015 | 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by s2k4tony
Even though my bessie mate has one of these '86's, I've tried so hard to like it. Plus - he's had some issues with the brakes too (scraping noises) which turned out to be inferior pads fitted at the factory. He still has an issue with the bonnet bouncing at speed(faulty latch) and a squeak from the rear which remains a mystery and cannot be found. These though are mere teething issues of a new model, and expected. The fact the interior is flimsy and a bit mis-matched, it raises a grimace for me. And that rear end just isn't right.
Someone told me awhile back that lots of new cars come out with poor/minimum brake pads. A cheeky cost saving.
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Old May 19, 2015 | 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Nick Graves
I think the slow throttle response is the inevitable result of the very long induction tracts on a boxer four. The only one I've driven that was sharp was an Alfasud Ti.

Maybe someone ought to do a throttle body kit?
Actually, I premsumed you meant in VSS mode?

In 'normal' mode, the throttle response is deliberately made Diesel-intolerable and I cannot stand it at all like that.

And the traction control panics on every curve in 'normal'

Definitely set up for tyros coming from a FWD cancer-box...
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