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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by OldDogmeat' date='Jan 1 2009, 01:00 PM
That's a really interesting steering technique; Just allow the wheel to spin and catch it when necessary.

Very different to any of Japanese stuff I've seen where the drivers feed the wheel with both hands.
All pro drifters let go of the wheel when going from lock to lock after initiating the drift or transitioning from one direction to the next, youd have no chance if you didnt to be fair.
Ive been a passenger with plenty of top UK drifters and even Ken Nomura, and all let go of wheel. So much so that Nomura was clapping his hands and stuff messing around to show what he was doing.

Only time this doesnt work well is if you have little or no castor, but thats rare, and then sometimes you have to give it a helping hand. But on any car set up for drifting the castor is increased for this reason.

Of course for small adjustments mid corner you dont let go, though thats mostly done with the foot pedals, but serious lock changes means letting go of the wheel.

Watching videos can aften be decieving though, as their hands are often still moving, so you dont realise when they moving the wheel and when they have let go.

Im no pro, though I can, and yeah, if it wasnt for knowing to just grab the wheel when needed rather than countersteering myself, id still be useless.

Seems a massivley alien concept, but its the way. I remember when I first started I was constantly spinning while flailing around trying to countersteer, couldnt get the hang of it. Took someone else out with me who was more experienced, they said to, I did, and never looked back.

Not something you get your head around until you try it, but you dont steer with the wheel at all really, if your doing much if any steering with your hands (aside from with the handbrake!) its usually a good sign your doing it wrong.
You steer with the pedals, and just grab the wheel at the correct time.

I really should have a go with the S2000 actually.

Perfect example here, small adjustments done with hands, but for big ones when changing direction Bon just lets the wheel go, as no chance of doing it that fast by hand, and the odd time he gives it a helping hand too...
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/BONBON-...09-fa1d9b66e53f
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 04:58 AM
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Letting go of the wheel is the advice given on 1st lotus days too if/when it gets too out of hand.
Castor is the suspension adjustment that means the front wheels have a natural tendency to point in a straight line. This is positive castor, unlike shopping trolleys which have castors with negative castor.
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 05:31 AM
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Useful - OT but seems like we need a thread on your Smart tweaks!
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 06:42 AM
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Useful - A shopping trolley's caster\trail functions the same way as a cars.

In fact technically the classic shopping trolley caster angle is zero and instead relies on trail to achieve the desired self centering effect. but in essence the placement of the steering axis intersects the ground forward of the contact patch as does a car or bike.
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 09:54 AM
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Guys dont know if you saw this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QibDTrZirBE&NR=1
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by MB' date='Jan 3 2009, 02:31 PM
Useful - OT but seems like we need a thread on your Smart tweaks!
Mark,
They're lagging behind; I'll start one, but it'll not be often updated.
And I have a bigger project in mind see here.
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 05:38 AM
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Manji drift http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=aoErWThOHhg
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 07:30 AM
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Heres a good 'How to learn to drift' video

http://www.drivers-republic.com/dr_tv/?vid...274&area=videos
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