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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Nottm_S2,Jan 2 2008, 01:54 PM
did the NA2 have a power hike or was it the 290bhp ish 3.2?
Didn't the 3.0 put out "278bhp" .. and then the 3.2 was "278bhp" .. and then the bluprinted 3.2 put out "278bhp" ..

Can never tell with the Japanese cars of the time. Look what's happened since ..

The new GT-R is 400+ .. the new Lexus LFA is lapping the ring even quicker with 500+ bhp ..

Hope Honda don't drop the ball.
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 07:14 AM
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Dropped a bollock, more like!

The controversy over the Acura GT5000 still rages on...
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 02:26 AM
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i thought it was some rule from Japan and in reality the type R kicked out a lot more than 280bhp

but it could be just internet hearsay
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 08:01 AM
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Dyno'd C32s generally seem to come out slightly over the quoted figure, whereas most cars come out under. There's always a slight variance, anyway.

Think the RX-8 holds the record; a lot of 231s barely break 200!

IIRC, a lot of F22cs also beat target too!
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 09:16 AM
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Nottm, that's my understanding.

The 280 bhp Jap agreeement was quite rigidly stuck to until recently, but in reality the cars were putting out more. The Skyline's and Supra's were well over 300 for example.

Not sure on the genuine NSX figures, I expect Simon Prelude will know - id bet some models are over 300 bhp though.
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 10:13 AM
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nsx performance suggests about 300bhp

no more really
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 10:20 AM
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It's the flat torque curve that makes them feel soo much stronger than the S2000. Power-to-weight's not that different.

The Cd's a lot better, which helps a lot.
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Nick Graves,Jan 3 2008, 07:20 PM
It's the flat torque curve that makes them feel soo much stronger than the S2000. Power-to-weight's not that different.

The Cd's a lot better, which helps a lot.
cc and cd then
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick Graves,Jan 3 2008, 11:20 AM
It's the flat torque curve that makes them feel soo much stronger than the S2000. Power-to-weight's not that different.
That was the conclusion I came too - after the S2000 the NSX felt so much faster, more so than the bald numbers led me to expect.

The NSX's power delivery just makes if so much easier to exploit the performance.
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Old Jan 4, 2008 | 12:47 AM
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http://www.rri.se/index.php?DN=29 has lots of cars power/torque curves and rates engines on quoted vs measured power torque. Their S2000 figures are 0.90 for Power (214 measured vs 237 claimed) and 0.91 for Torque (140 measured vs 153 claimed)

Sadly they haven't done an NSX
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