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Old 10-11-2010, 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by m1bjr,Oct 10 2010, 09:21 PM
The diff?



If its anything like me pitting a 335 before an M3, then its the axle that's the biggest differential.

The car is a totally different animal, and hobbled without.
I would imagine your Cayman to be exactly the same.
You would be suprised, the mid-engined'ness provides a serious amount of grip as it is, I can only imagine the diff making much if any difference in 1st and 2nd gear.

When I have been on track in Cayman's in the past you can still exit a corner at "roughly" the same speed as a 911, the 911 does have more grip but i'd say thats more to do with engine position then purely an LSD?
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Originally Posted by RedUn,Oct 10 2010, 10:08 PM
MB - No need for expensive ceramics, although they are good, Alcon do a full front and rear set for just over 3k...
Not something I would buy, but i've seen PCCB on a few Cayman Sports as an option. Nice
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Originally Posted by RedUn,Oct 11 2010, 11:06 AM
You would be suprised, the mid-engined'ness provides a serious amount of grip as it is, I can only imagine the diff making much if any difference in 1st and 2nd gear.

When I have been on track in Cayman's in the past you can still exit a corner at "roughly" the same speed as a 911, the 911 does have more grip but i'd say thats more to do with engine position then purely an LSD?
I think you're about right.

Given the set up of your car there will be less need for as LSD, certainly so if you aren't racing it.

Grip depends on a number of factors, not least the car's centre of gravity which will depend on the layout of the car. I'm not convinced the difference between yours and the 911 is down to purely to engine position.
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I've slightly lost the specs, but doesn't the 911 still have more sophisticated (IE double-wishbone-type) suspension, whereas the lesser models have a sort of McPherson-type setup?
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Chris at CG said they are identical from front to B pillar, not sure about rear.
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A front engine rear wheel drive car would be pants without an LSD especially when experiencing lateral forces. The M3 with its sheer power would not be half that car without it.

Rear engine cars like the 911 go against the laws of physics. Late models have become an excellent drive but late 90s early 2000 series needed a very agressive drive mode.

Today they use a torque vectoring system which makes the car ultra stable with the use of LSD/electronics.

The Cayman even with the traction off is very settled. Its does let go eventually but does so gracefully or when exiting an apex at the wrong speed.
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its a boxster with a roof!

get over it.

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Originally Posted by s2000malta,Oct 11 2010, 04:27 PM
A front engine rear wheel drive car would be pants without an LSD especially when experiencing lateral forces.
The Cayman is is mid engined.
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Originally Posted by Shopman,Oct 11 2010, 03:27 PM
Chris at CG said they are identical from front to B pillar, not sure about rear.
There is an extra upper rear control link on the rear suspension on the 911, so it behaves more like DW.

I should imagine the rest of the improvement is dialled in via the FREDs and bigger rubber & stuff.

One slight difference; the Gaylords have a slightly better driving position & a slightly worse gearchange.
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Originally Posted by Nick Graves,Oct 11 2010, 07:08 PM
I should imagine the rest of the improvement is dialled in via the FREDs and bigger rubber & stuff.


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