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From: Frustration
Originally Posted by Lurking Lawyer,May 25 2006, 02:58 AM
So on your analysis, perjury is OK in one instance but not another, depending on whether you view the underlying accusation as being serious or not?
Sorry, the system doesn't work that way. I agree entirely with Chris. Perjury is perjury is perjury.
Sorry, the system doesn't work that way. I agree entirely with Chris. Perjury is perjury is perjury.
But why not use perjury as a multiplier. If you lie under oath, then you deserve to get double your intended sentance/fine etc.
Yes, its obviously designed as a deterrent. But what is it really doing? Its just causing a media frenzy, reducing public confidence in the judicial system and making a mockery of that same system. Bit of a faux pas really. I honestly cant believe you cant see this. You just seem to sit on your 'High Horse' thinking that the system is right cos its been with us forever. It isn't. Please realise this.
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The bottom line is that what she was lieing about is largely irrelevant in the eyes of the court - perverting the course of justice/ perjury are crimes against the court and obviously they have to be dealt with severely or the courts power would be diluted. That's the price of justice I'm afraid. If you're going to lie to get out of a speeding fine you need to do it a hell of a lot better than she did.
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Originally Posted by Lurking Lawyer,May 25 2006, 10:58 AM
So on your analysis, perjury is OK in one instance but not another, depending on whether you view the underlying accusation as being serious or not?
Sorry, the system doesn't work that way. I agree entirely with Chris. Perjury is perjury is perjury.
I'd imagine that the six month custodial sentence (which bear in mind she'd be out after three) was intended to be a deterrent, knowing full well that it would hit the headlines. Archer got considerably longer than six months for lying in a civil claim, let alone a criminal claim.....
Sorry, the system doesn't work that way. I agree entirely with Chris. Perjury is perjury is perjury.
I'd imagine that the six month custodial sentence (which bear in mind she'd be out after three) was intended to be a deterrent, knowing full well that it would hit the headlines. Archer got considerably longer than six months for lying in a civil claim, let alone a criminal claim.....
that means 75% of UK citizens (95% of drivers) are criminals.. hmmm
not sure how that would go down with tourists?
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Originally Posted by Chris Type R,May 25 2006, 11:00 AM
In your opinion - not the law.
protecting a violent criminal over protecting someone who does something that YOU do every day?
hmmm..
we agree to differ then.. good debate
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From: North Herts
Originally Posted by Nottm_S2,May 25 2006, 12:07 PM
so you're saying it IS the same
protecting a violent criminal over protecting someone who does something that YOU do every day?
hmmm..
we agree to differ then.. good debate
protecting a violent criminal over protecting someone who does something that YOU do every day?
hmmm..
we agree to differ then.. good debate
"perverting the course of justice/ perjury are crimes against the court and obviously they have to be dealt with severely or the courts power would be diluted"
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Originally Posted by Chris Type R,May 25 2006, 03:03 AM
I exceed the speed limit quite often - on motorways and NSLs. Why would you assume that I don't ? Indeed I've only recently had 3 points removed for an SP50.
This thread isn't about my driving habits - it's about the sensationalisation of someone's choice to attempt to pervert the course of justice.
If I were to be caught - I'd take it on the chin - it's a risk that one takes. It boils down to taking responsiblilty for your own actions.
This thread isn't about my driving habits - it's about the sensationalisation of someone's choice to attempt to pervert the course of justice.
If I were to be caught - I'd take it on the chin - it's a risk that one takes. It boils down to taking responsiblilty for your own actions.
