Car Talk - Non S2000 General Motoring and Non S2000 Car Talk

SIMCA returns!

Thread Tools
 
Old Jan 20, 2009 | 10:29 AM
  #1  
Nick Graves's Avatar
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 31,181
Likes: 58
From: Hertford
Default SIMCA returns!

From the Aronde to the wonderful 180:

Two drunks propping one another up...
Reply
Old Jan 20, 2009 | 12:21 PM
  #2  
moff's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 7,467
Likes: 0
From: Nottingham
Default

@ the two drunks!

I think that this has got to be good for both manufacturers??

For Fiat they will get some mid-size models, albeit they are totally sh1t. I cannot understand how the Sebring made it to the factory.

But at the same time it provides a route to market in the US for the excellent 500 and Panda which I think could actually do well in the US with their trend to downsize?

Can't remember the name but the Chrysler MPV is a great car and provide some reason for Fiat to want to acquire a stake in them?

I don't want to see Fiat go, I am sure Ferrari will still do well and will be snapped up, but I like really like seeing the 500 on the roads.
Reply
Old Jan 20, 2009 | 12:23 PM
  #3  
Bramblecat's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,939
Likes: 0
From: Leafy Surrey
Default

Not sure I understand this bit

"Under the plan, Fiat would gain 35% of Chrysler in return for its vehicle platforms and technology"

Surely any Fiat platform and technology is going to be better than an American car's platform. Especially as they are partnered to Ferrari. Unless Chrysler have come on in leaps and bounds with their chassis and technology
Reply
Old Jan 20, 2009 | 12:35 PM
  #4  
moff's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 7,467
Likes: 0
From: Nottingham
Default

As I mentioned, the Grand Voyager is a good vehicle and I can understand why they would want it.

But apart from that, the 300C is built on a very old W124 E-Class platform. The Sebring is new, but the car is terrible.

The 4x4's are probably decent, but thats a deteriorating market.
Reply
Old Jan 20, 2009 | 01:15 PM
  #5  
jml's Avatar
jml
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,085
Likes: 35
From: Bruges
Default

Originally Posted by Nick Graves' date='Jan 20 2009, 08:29 PM
From the Aronde to the wonderful 180:

Two drunks propping one another up...
Once upon a time i drove one of those:

http://simcarestauratie.blogspot.com/

S2000 a handful don't make me laugh
Reply
Old Jan 20, 2009 | 03:29 PM
  #6  
Nick Graves's Avatar
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 31,181
Likes: 58
From: Hertford
Default

Originally Posted by Bramblecat' date='Jan 20 2009, 09:23 PM
Not sure I understand this bit

"Under the plan, Fiat would gain 35% of Chrysler in return for its vehicle platforms and technology"

Surely any Fiat platform and technology is going to be better than an American car's platform. Especially as they are partnered to Ferrari. Unless Chrysler have come on in leaps and bounds with their chassis and technology
I think its refers to FIAT's platforms. Which makes a great deal more sense.

When they last looked at an alliance, it was for Chrysler to adopt the Tempra as a platform. The problem was that the Tempra was too sophisticated and expensive for a small US car, so it floundered and Chrysler did the Neon instead.

This helps explain why US cars are usually such shit.

Things may have changed a bit since and Euro cars are now made in the US; Fords as Mercuries and Opels as Saturns.
Reply
Old Jan 21, 2009 | 12:24 AM
  #7  
soulcrew's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 10,680
Likes: 0
From: OLD SOUTH WALES
Default

my parents had a simca 1501 estate when i was a teenager.
Reply
Old Jan 21, 2009 | 12:34 AM
  #8  
MarkB's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 10,979
Likes: 0
From: North Yorks
Default

Originally Posted by soulcrew' date='Jan 21 2009, 09:24 AM
my parents had a simca 1501 estate when i was a teenager.
Mine had a 1501 saloon when I was about 8.

Just like this in fact, same colour and all;



And my first car was a Simca 1100 van;

Reply
Old Jan 21, 2009 | 12:58 AM
  #9  
Nick Graves's Avatar
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 31,181
Likes: 58
From: Hertford
Default

Since I started this thread, I've lost the will to live...
Reply
Old Jan 21, 2009 | 02:07 AM
  #10  
Useful's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,717
Likes: 0
From: Hampshire
Default

But not the will to post, evidently...
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 05:31 AM.