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Originally Posted by pip,Mar 1 2007, 12:31 PM
It wouldn't be a problem if other, more important areas of law enforcement were taken care of before they picked on people driving a few mph above the limit. But that would cost money which is being wasted elsewhere.
That's what pi$$es most people off. They know full well that theiving scum are getting away scott free because Police resources are taken up catching speeding motorists, but they carry on making money for Tony and Gordon.
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Originally Posted by j8mie,Mar 1 2007, 05:24 PM
Nail on the head
That's what pi$$es most people off. They know full well that theiving scum are getting away scott free because Police resources are taken up catching speeding motorists, but they carry on making money for Tony and Gordon.
That's what pi$$es most people off. They know full well that theiving scum are getting away scott free because Police resources are taken up catching speeding motorists, but they carry on making money for Tony and Gordon.
The officers that are involved are often nearing retirement or in the odd case just of warped mind. I'm going to stop there before I get myself in trouble with my employers
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Sorry I wasn't implying that the Police have anything to do with fixed speed cameras. But they do seem to spend far too much of their time trying to catch speeding motorists. Or maybe that's just because the media only ever seem to report that side of crime fighting.
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Originally Posted by John57,Mar 1 2007, 06:09 PM
Traffic Police don't actually spend that much time specifically trying to catch speeders
Trouble is the police want it both ways.
When confronted with a question on why crime rates are increasing they will inevitably pass the buck onto the Govt with "manpower is stretched", "not enough resources".
Yet they still find the manpower and resources to sit around in camera vans
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Originally Posted by Moggy,Mar 1 2007, 06:58 PM
who mentioned traffic police
Can't speak for anywhere else though.
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Originally Posted by Moggy,Mar 1 2007, 06:58 PM
who mentioned traffic police
Trouble is the police want it both ways.
When confronted with a question on why crime rates are increasing they will inevitably pass the buck onto the Govt with "manpower is stretched", "not enough resources".
Yet they still find the manpower and resources to sit around in camera vans
Trouble is the police want it both ways.
When confronted with a question on why crime rates are increasing they will inevitably pass the buck onto the Govt with "manpower is stretched", "not enough resources".
Yet they still find the manpower and resources to sit around in camera vans
The amount of time the police waste on paperwork, beareaucracy and time wasters (every incident has to be investigated now, regardless of it's seriousness) is incredible. Government guidelines and the requirements of an increasingly PC (no pun intended) society mean that the police are now more stretched than ever. So "resourcing" (not allowed to call it manpower, it's sexist) is a real problem, and the scamera vans are rarely staffed by officers (not allowed to call them policemen, it's sexist) on duty. Some do use a spell in a nice warm van to top up their overtime, which I find disagreeable though.
If you see an officer at the side of the road with a laser, be thankful, unlike a scamera operative, he can apply discretion and he can also catch people driving like knobs.
As for Shipley, I'd be very suspicious of any statistics supplied by a camera partnership, they are always skewed to show the partnership in the best light, and rarely attribute a decrease in casualties to anything other than their activities.
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Originally Posted by MarkB,Mar 2 2007, 09:31 AM
I think that's a bit unfair Nige.
The amount of time the police waste on paperwork, beareaucracy and time wasters (every incident has to be investigated now, regardless of it's seriousness) is incredible. Government guidelines and the requirements of an increasingly PC (no pun intended) society mean that the police are now more stretched than ever. So "resourcing" (not allowed to call it manpower, it's sexist) is a real problem, and the scamera vans are rarely staffed by officers (not allowed to call them policemen, it's sexist) on duty. Some do use a spell in a nice warm van to top up their overtime, which I find disagreeable though.
If you see an officer at the side of the road with a laser, be thankful, unlike a scamera operative, he can apply discretion and he can also catch people driving like knobs.
As for Shipley, I'd be very suspicious of any statistics supplied by a camera partnership, they are always skewed to show the partnership in the best light, and rarely attribute a decrease in casualties to anything other than their activities.
The amount of time the police waste on paperwork, beareaucracy and time wasters (every incident has to be investigated now, regardless of it's seriousness) is incredible. Government guidelines and the requirements of an increasingly PC (no pun intended) society mean that the police are now more stretched than ever. So "resourcing" (not allowed to call it manpower, it's sexist) is a real problem, and the scamera vans are rarely staffed by officers (not allowed to call them policemen, it's sexist) on duty. Some do use a spell in a nice warm van to top up their overtime, which I find disagreeable though.
If you see an officer at the side of the road with a laser, be thankful, unlike a scamera operative, he can apply discretion and he can also catch people driving like knobs.
As for Shipley, I'd be very suspicious of any statistics supplied by a camera partnership, they are always skewed to show the partnership in the best light, and rarely attribute a decrease in casualties to anything other than their activities.
As for the old beaurocracy argument- All the public sector moan about it but it's the same for all of us. I think it is used as an excuse far too much.
I have become a lot more cynical of the police over the last 15 months-due to personal experience. They appear to take the easy way out far too much.
RE: stats-It's just the way I am taught to think, but a non expert quoting stats should always be taken with a large oince of salt.