Total ban on drinking and driving.
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Originally Posted by martin j,Oct 9 2008, 11:51 AM
3.5 years for taking two lives under any circumstances deserves much more than this sentence, 35 years would be more appropriate, if he felt really bad about it I'd loan him a few feet of rope and and a chair for use in his 8x6 cell.
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Ok, maybe if they had been sober 35 years is a tad heavy.
How many people get a driving ban and continue to drive anyway though?
How many killers would you need to jail with this kind of sentence before others took notice?, if sentences were applied to the max and the convicted had to serve the whole time, the public at large may not feel as if the judges need a kick in the ************* and replaced.
If it had my kids and spouse I'd want to wait outside the jail on his release, rip his head off and piss down the hole in his neck, I could then surrender to plod and get about 8 years for it. And then be met by his brother/cousin etc.
The courts need to be seen to meet out justice and the prisons reformed so they are not comfortable but genuine deterents.
How many people get a driving ban and continue to drive anyway though?
How many killers would you need to jail with this kind of sentence before others took notice?, if sentences were applied to the max and the convicted had to serve the whole time, the public at large may not feel as if the judges need a kick in the ************* and replaced.
If it had my kids and spouse I'd want to wait outside the jail on his release, rip his head off and piss down the hole in his neck, I could then surrender to plod and get about 8 years for it. And then be met by his brother/cousin etc.
The courts need to be seen to meet out justice and the prisons reformed so they are not comfortable but genuine deterents.
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Originally Posted by Papillon,Oct 9 2008, 04:34 PM
It's quite true that the body retains some alcohol permanently, and thus a zero rating would be impossible to enforce.
Equally, whilst it is true that a moderate amount of alcohol (in line with current laws) does impact driving ability, this cannot be looked at in a vacuum. There are a million and one things that have an effect on driving competence at any given moment, from tiredness, to the kids arguing in the back seat (we're probably safe on this one), to a comedy on the radio or a good discussion/good song, to a good looking woman walking along the street in a short skirt.
The truth is that the ideal of a perfect level of concentration and competence is impossible to achieve; there will always be some reason for a depressed level of skill and aptitude.
Drink/driving statistics in Britain actually measure up very well to other comparable countries. Drink related accidents do indeed include those where the driver was sober but the pedestrian hammered.
The problem with drivers who do drink is rarely the one of someone being somewhere near the limit, it is those who intend to ignore any law put in place by drinking as much as they feel like and then getting behind the wheel.
Equally, whilst it is true that a moderate amount of alcohol (in line with current laws) does impact driving ability, this cannot be looked at in a vacuum. There are a million and one things that have an effect on driving competence at any given moment, from tiredness, to the kids arguing in the back seat (we're probably safe on this one), to a comedy on the radio or a good discussion/good song, to a good looking woman walking along the street in a short skirt.
The truth is that the ideal of a perfect level of concentration and competence is impossible to achieve; there will always be some reason for a depressed level of skill and aptitude.
Drink/driving statistics in Britain actually measure up very well to other comparable countries. Drink related accidents do indeed include those where the driver was sober but the pedestrian hammered.
The problem with drivers who do drink is rarely the one of someone being somewhere near the limit, it is those who intend to ignore any law put in place by drinking as much as they feel like and then getting behind the wheel.
The other danger of whipping-horse syndrome is that in some cases the alcohol is used as an excuse not to bother looking properly at the cause of the accident and more people will be involved to the same spot in the future. JJ Leeming's book mentions one such example.
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