Clog's , we should from a "F the Clogs" group, drive them of the road, the M11 up to Stansted every night is a breeding ground for them.

Dont talk about Fog lights, there were even some this evening, and you could see for miles

Like it or not these things are covered in the highway code, and few people should be made to read it a bit more often.

Now don't jump to conclusion's about me, you would be very wrong but i wonder about the driver training of some of our shall we say recent imports, I can't but notice in and around london the use of the Horn is far more apparent in recent years, and i am sure that in many countries the driving test is far less stringent that ours

 

my vote would be to increase the speed limit to 90 and police it properly, the speed limit is a joke its just the simple way to police it nothing to do with common sense, use the average speed cameras for something useful
i could legally take a 1920's car with rod operated drum brakes and if i could find a long enough hill get it up to 70 mph, surely there should be some kind of limit depending on age/design of the car like caravans have, people convicted of speeding could be demoted to the lower speed band for a period of time as should new drivers, whilst people with advanced driving could have a few more mph on their limit
Reward the good drivers and punish the bad ones, if your not interested in going fast stay in the lower group and have cheaper insurance

 

Not round here. (M1/M62 corridor)

 

I don't disagree that the police may not use dwdcaa

My only issue with your post was that I thought you were saying that had no powers to prosecute your description of bad driving

 

You could have stayed next to them in the outer lane for a few miles.
That would have been quite funny

 

If our driving test was any good, people who had just passed it would surely have lower insurance premiums than those who passed it 20 years ago...

You hear the horn more purely because there are more people and the transport infrastructure is saturated which means people become increasingly frustrated.

 

I can see where you are coming from, however:

Firstly, that's like saying a person coming out of University should go straight into the top jobs.

A test is one thing-the real world is something else.

Secondly, an insurer doesn't have any real person statistics for the individual who has passed their test wheeras they do for the person who has been driving for 20yrs.

 

Chippo, you raise a good point. Having travelled extensively in India and Africa and parts of the Middle East i can honestly say that to obtain a driving licence you need to do little more than hand over money!

Chatting to an Aussie mate recently he was astounded at how easy it was for him to be able to drive over here for a long period of time by simply showing his existing licence. Now I know the test process in Oz is a lot better than the countries i mentioned in my first paragraph but a licence/permit is still that and from which ever country you obtained it from.

This makes for interesting reading:

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/Drive...ence/DG_4022561

I am pretty sure most of the people who cut me up on a regular basis in East London have passed their 12 months and or are driving on someone else's licence.....

There should be certain countries that are excluded from allowing driving for 12 months on their native permit and require an immediate test.

Having passed my test 2 years ago i feel that it is adequate for town driving however truley believe it should encompass more motorway driving, especially junctions with up to 4 lanes.

 

Which is why i'm saying the test could be better.

Degree...well, I mean a degree is just proof that you have aptitude I suppose and often they don't relate 100% (or even over 50% most times) to the graduates chosen vocation

For example, when I pass a Cisco exam, I am VERY clued up on all things networky and am, in essence, at peak ability.

Every day after the exam, I start to lose bits a pieces of what I should be doing because i'm not requiring to use it or I pick up sloppy habbits.

The good (or bad) news is that I have 3 years before I must pass the exam again, or I lose the qualifications. So it benefits me to be technically comprehensive and accurate in correct procedures, because come exam time in the future, i'll stand a better chance of passing

This is how the driving test should be - a real world encounter.

Still, back to the subject at hand, it is further reason why you should fit your car with a camera.