As you know I've been riding a motorcycle for many years. As soon as you let your emotions over rule you then you have lost.

You must see the cars not as individuals but as dangerous moving objects and ride defensively, its not a battle about who is right or wrong, its a battle to stay alive.

Ditch the camera, its not helping your emotional state, be dispassionate, plan ahead and never let your emotions rule your actions.

 

Appreciated Nomadic.

Yeah, she wasn't in it (She was in it before, but that's not what I was going on about and to say it was would be a lie!) but wanted to go in it when she saw the oncoming traffic meaning she had to stop. I knew she'd have to stop which is why I didn't stop. She knows I am there from when I passed the Accord.



The camera is staying. I have had a couple of hit and runs, one of them whilst I was in the middle of the road.

You have to realise that a motorcycle isn't a push bike. On a motorbike you have the ability to command the road. On a push bike if you do the same you get suicidal people trying to overtake, even if you are doing the speed limit. These people expect you to be over to the left side of teh road which is fine and as a driver I totally understand this. I don't want to be in anyone's way.

If my emotions had gotten the better of me, I'd have dropped my bike kicked feck out of the car. As it was even after she'd driven into me, I let it go and simply set off again. I ask all of you reading this, if another person had nudgged your car with their car, and dented it, would you have no reaction?

 

Why are you surprised by this? Every time the "cyclists don't pay road tax" argument comes along, one of the counter arguments is that most cyclists drive cars as well. They probably do both badly.

Someone's signature on here once was something like "never avoid an accident that isn't your fault." That's all well and good in a car, but perhaps not something to try on a bike.

You're a nice bloke Ron, and we'd hate to lose you. Is it really worth getting badly hurt just to be in the right when someone else doesn't follow the rules of the road to the letter?

Let's face it, even you make mistakes sometimes. https://www.s2ki.com/...urt-appearence/

At least your spelling has improved since then!

 

interesting stuff...

I can see both sides, but I think the overwhelming opinion of self preservation is on to take on board. When I cycle, I am acutely aware that if I have an 'incident' with a car, it's likely to be a lick of paint for them and a hospital bed or worse for me, so I ride accordingly. Sure, I've banged on a few windows at lights and shared some opinions with drivers, but not intentionally put myself in harms way to prove a point, particularly whilst on the move.

Out of interest, clip 2, I do think you make the situation what it turned out to be by your initial road positioning. I could see right from the start that cars have parked up on the pavements and in the cycle lane, if it's a 20mph zone and busy like that, why not take the initiative and just cycle in the middle of the road preventing any car passing. If you pedal along at 20mph, no-one would be bothered. When it opens up, move over again.

You seemed to hug the kerb until the obstacle was 10 feet away then shoot out? I would have just sat out there from way back and taken the flack if someone got peeved, rather than try and force the issue with something 20x my mass.

Stay safe out there, but sorry, this has done little to support the case of the average cyclist in my opinion.

let's talk about 16 year olds on scooters. I had one follow for for about 2 miles the other day, I only knew he was behind when I saw him in my rear view mirror licking the back window of the car, he was not visible from either wing mirror... I assume he was drafting me to save fuel. I am sure he does the same to vans also, who of course have no rear view mirror so would be totally unaware he was there.

Bless him, I hope he makes it to 17 and gets a driving license to perhaps see how lucky he has been to survive on the roads this long.

 

Oh yeah I have made loads of mistakes!! I have paid for them dearly too.

In no way am I perfect or even anywhere remotely close.

 

I was trying to stay out of this as everyone else has pretty much said it all, but I couldn't stop myself.

It's at least as much your fault that those people got soaked; that driver wouldn't have been in the temper he was in if you hadn't taken yours out on him. And how does it work that the Civic driver, who had been allowed to turn by the stationary car you passed, is in the wrong but the cyclist following him was greeted with a cheery 'go on mate'? Strikes me you're very anti-car when you get on your bike.

Ref. the Civic incident again, a total failure on your part to read the conditions and react accordingly, a theme carried on throughout both videos.

Also, I don't recall a rearward glance during any of your weaving. I don't know if the same terminology is still used, but certainly when I took my motorbike test, looking over your shoulder before manoeuvring was called the 'life saver', and for very good reason. Same applies on a push bike in the conditions you're riding in.

It comes across as if you go out with a mind to invite problems to criticise people for. If it's an idiot road user you're after, you can find him much closer to home.

You should seriously consider the advice and criticism in this thread if you value your life.

 

Indeed - not least if you pick a fight with a tooled-up driver.

I believe more research needs to be carried out as to what the hormonal changes are that tends to turn cyclists into road captains; generally - not specifically here. Something about too much oxygen/adrenaline/cortisol. It would appear to mimic the fight/flight response and causes people to take stupid risks. Like red-light jumping in front of plod in London & taking on the world.

It doesn't appear to happen (this is not yet empirical) so much in places like Amsterdam & Copenhagen, where they don't have a "cyclist" mentality as most normal people also have a bike.

I suspect it's either the British are all a bunch of aresholes, or (like inadvertently increasing speed in thick fog which they used to blame on "motorway madness" without thinking about it) something else is occurring.

 

First, Nantwich Rd, Crewe. Second, up near Brine Leas school, edge of Nantwich? hmmm, not sure

 

In fairness, that's not confined to cyclists - it occurs to me that even the mildest-mannered people turn into horn-blowing, fist-shaking road-ragers when they get behind the wheel of a car.

The roads would be a lot safer and nicer to use if everyone recognised each other's right to use them and showed a bit more thought for each other.

 

i cycled to work for 10 years and i dont think i'd have undertaken a bus like you did. token cycle lane or not it's not going to stop a 20 tonne bus making jam out of you and your cam mate

the woman in the fiesta was a cunt plain and simple