And you thought the S2000 was too much
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Nowt wrong with BMW drivers ... well some
... but the 1M is seriously ugly ! Saw my first one on the M25 the other day - looks totally stupid and OTT. Get a 135i and map it ... same performance without the stupid looks. RS3 for me if I went away from my oh so perfect diesel
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...or spend significantly less and still get a decent car.
I see plenty of idiots who have been buying the 1 Series of late...
Me: "How about a Golf, or Focus?"
Them: "Oh but I must have a BMW to match Daddy's; he's even giving me 80% of the money so I can have one because I can't possibly buy one myself"
This is the typical BMW owner mentality that I am faced with on a day to day basis...mainly youngish people too...no wonder they're getting stacked so quickly.
I see plenty of idiots who have been buying the 1 Series of late...
Me: "How about a Golf, or Focus?"
Them: "Oh but I must have a BMW to match Daddy's; he's even giving me 80% of the money so I can have one because I can't possibly buy one myself"
This is the typical BMW owner mentality that I am faced with on a day to day basis...mainly youngish people too...no wonder they're getting stacked so quickly.
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Funnily enough I saw an old Top Gear on Dave earlier where they completely rubbished the 1 series (at launch) as it was so much more expensive than a Golf, its self over-priced.
Their conclusion was that you could get a much better car in that market than the 1 Series.
Yes, you can but in reality the 1 Series isn't competing with someone who'd buy a Focus or an Astra. In that market rear drive means nothing.
The 1 Series is - in my experience - being bought by or leased by company car drivers who aren't on 3 Series wages yet.
As Clarkson said, you're paying for this (the propellor on the front)
Their conclusion was that you could get a much better car in that market than the 1 Series.
Yes, you can but in reality the 1 Series isn't competing with someone who'd buy a Focus or an Astra. In that market rear drive means nothing.
The 1 Series is - in my experience - being bought by or leased by company car drivers who aren't on 3 Series wages yet.
As Clarkson said, you're paying for this (the propellor on the front)
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This M mode must do something quite dramatic to the DSC (BMW stability pack)
As I find that these cars are idiot proof with the freds engaged.
And I mean, you have to try SERIOUSLY hard to get out of shape.
Even in DTC modes, where DSC stability effects are reduced and you can get it sideways or spin wheels -
you cannot easily rotate the car. Have tried very hard at this
The N54 has a huge low down torque though, so you can break traction at 2-3k in the wet with just a little stab of the pedal.
Gareth is right of course.
How many quality RWD compacts are there on the market?
And I would agree on the CC purchases too, the economy and emissions are on par with tiny Vulvas etc,
so from a tax and BIK point alone they make perfect sense.
S.
As I find that these cars are idiot proof with the freds engaged.
And I mean, you have to try SERIOUSLY hard to get out of shape.
Even in DTC modes, where DSC stability effects are reduced and you can get it sideways or spin wheels -
you cannot easily rotate the car. Have tried very hard at this
The N54 has a huge low down torque though, so you can break traction at 2-3k in the wet with just a little stab of the pedal.
Gareth is right of course.
How many quality RWD compacts are there on the market?
And I would agree on the CC purchases too, the economy and emissions are on par with tiny Vulvas etc,
so from a tax and BIK point alone they make perfect sense.
S.
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Yes, you can but in reality the 1 Series isn't competing with someone who'd buy a Focus or an Astra. In that market rear drive means nothing.
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The majority of BMW drivers probably think their cars are front wheel drive anyway
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The majority of BMW drivers probably think their cars are front wheel drive anyway
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anyone who thinks the Golf, and especially the Focus, are better than the 1-series clearly occupies a different driving universe to mine
there might be some exceptions in the ranges of course and I'm not a fan of everything BMW
there might be some exceptions in the ranges of course and I'm not a fan of everything BMW