I think you missed my point (unless you weren't responding to me?)

My point is that I was relating this new concept to something I'm familiar with. Nothing more

 

.. and back to what Dre said...

Democracts *WILL* raise taxes, but what will they do with the tax money? They will turn around and spend it on more social programs while allowing the deficit to grow. Never, EVAR has there ever been a *TRUE CUT* in spending.. reduction yes, but never have we spent less money one year than we did the previous and THAT is the problem.

Take schools for instance. I do not want to give one more hard earned cent to public schools..... its absolutely insulting and useless. As a lesson... we dump more and more money EVERY year into publics schools and STILL... they drop standards year after year so more kids don't fail. Now... what does that tell you? One of two things...... eigther:

A. More money into public schools isn't helping at all or
B. More money into public schools is hurting

I tend to believe the latter.... the more money provided, the worse it gets. Turning a school in Anywheretown, USA into a set from 90210 isn't going to make kids and smarter... nor is paying teachers more eigther but thats another arguement.

All I have head over the past 6 years is "Mour moneys 4 skools" over and over and over.... and they have gotten it.... and whats happened?

Social Security and Medicare is enough to bankrupt us alone, regardless of welfare, public schools, public housings, ect... Again.. more "Programs" funded by who... by what... us. The tax payer.

 

Work smarter not harder!!!

 

How about more money for schools and teacher pay and less for special programs like free snacks between the free breakfasts and free lunches. Its like kids are raised to take advantage of welfare these days.

 

I want to move to Puerto Rico - tax-free citizenship!

 

I think that teacher pay is DISMAL, if you don't attract and retain qualified, talented educators - how do you expect your kid to learn anything?

I also think free snacks and lunches (for ALL students, not just poorer students) is wrong, however free school lunch for kids whose parents can't otherwise afford to give them money for lunch is an absolute MUST.

No education system is perfect but from what I've seen, we're on the right track - we just need to take a serious look at WHERE the money we're pumping into schools goes, and redirect it to provide maximum benefit for students and learning.

I'm going to leave the topic of standardized testing alone, as that is a horse of a different color imho.

and for the record, kids should be brought up to WORK for what they have, not rely on a free ride.

 

You want more teahcer pay casue your wifey is a teacher!!!!! Altterior motive!!!!

 

Saki - care to educate us on what the average starting pay for a teacher in NC is?

average pay for 5 years? 10 years? average peak pay?

if it works on a tenure system (which for some reason I think it does) much like a university system feel free to quote those as well.

Thanks - I'm actually really interested to know but don't want to throw out the wrong figures.

 

Instead of boosting salaries to attract good teachers to the field, I find that we try to fix the problem by hiring more administrators to micromanage, creating more frivolous work and programs, further drawing the teachers' time away from the classroom.




I really don't feel like free lunches is what's draining needed funds from school systems. However, the memory of the girl in front of me in line for lunch in HS, with more bling at 15 than I have now at 28 (yes, a luxurious faux fur, and nice shoes, and styled hair, and jewelry, and...), pulling out a $50 to pay for about 4 ice cream bars and then proceed to throw away the lunch that she just got for free (or I should say, per our taxpayer's hard work), highlights that something in the system is wrong.

 

[QUOTE=misskatiemo,Nov 9 2006, 01:38 PM] I think progressive taxation is good, but with limits.