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Old Nov 4, 2009 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 8D_In_Trunk,Nov 4 2009, 12:04 AM
I would like to believe (and have some personal anecdotal proof) that there are one-time choice made, wherein the choice is voluntary, but the secondary effects are oppressive.
Agreed.

As per marketization and philanthropy: There are now a fairly robust set of studies going on regarding the economics of intangibles. Those might be better suited in guiding your answers. . . at least in terms of a strict economic study.
Screw economics. Maybe I'm thinking in more theoretical terms as opposed to scientific terms (which may also be part of the problem).

I'm reminded of the word agape.

However, I have to believe that a charitable act done with full knowledge may carry more economic heft than an act done without knowledge. . . once again though, my theory is probably waiting to be tested at a University some point later.
But rarely do people have full knowledge...and often that just supports the system that creates the problems to begin with. Cripes, I need a nap before I continue with this.
Old Nov 4, 2009 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by shareall,Nov 4 2009, 09:28 AM
Screw economics. Maybe I'm thinking in more theoretical terms as opposed to scientific terms (which may also be part of the problem).
So long as there's an exchange of something, economic models can be created, studied, quantified and qualified.

You don't screw economics. . . economics may screw you.

But rarely do people have full knowledge...and often that just supports the system that creates the problems to begin with. Cripes, I need a nap before I continue with this.
Perhaps I should've said, "robust" knowledge, and not "full" knowledge, as "full" knowledge cannot usually be ascertained.
Old Nov 6, 2009 | 09:18 AM
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Wow, share and you discussing stuff about things. Sorry I missed all of that.

Full knowledge would seem to require omnicience? Rubust is just hubris.

Back to choice...there may never have been a choice in the stated case. Sold by daddy ain't a choice. Running away from torture, etc. with no marketable skills is not really a choice. Having no other discrenable options other than suicide is not a real choice.

Old Nov 6, 2009 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by INTJ,Nov 6 2009, 10:18 AM
Back to choice...there may never have been a choice in the stated case. Sold by daddy ain't a choice. Running away from torture, etc. with no marketable skills is not really a choice. Having no other discrenable options other than suicide is not a real choice.

Those are some of the many cases, not all. Just keep your kids from workin' the poll.
Old Nov 6, 2009 | 09:47 AM
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Unkie, I heard that you are looking at Evos and STIs, is this correct? If so, which vehicle are you in favor of and why?


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Old Nov 6, 2009 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by EVAN&MONICA,Nov 6 2009, 10:47 AM
Unkie, I heard that you are looking at Evos and STIs, is this correct? If so, which vehicle are you in favor of and why?


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I'm looking for a fun car.
S2k is still at the top of the list.

EVOs would be an okay choice if I can find a used one that hasn't been modded to shit. STis used suffer the same issue. My rank preference for the EVO has more to do with availability and depreciation rates than anything else.

At this point, I'd sooner get a Renault, err, Nissan 350z than an EVO or Subaru. I want a decent convertible to go cruising. Barring that, a car that's fun to drive.

Plan B is to chuck the E and just buy an MS3 (I still need enough room to carry amps and sound equipment).
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ew. don't buy a 350 vert, that thing is horrid.
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Originally Posted by thebig33tuna,Nov 6 2009, 11:01 AM
ew. don't buy a 350 vert, that thing is horrid.
It's still below the S. . .

A Mazdaspeed Miata would be quite excellent. . .
Old Nov 6, 2009 | 10:10 AM
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Old Nov 6, 2009 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by KeithMajkasays,Nov 6 2009, 11:10 AM
Not that there is anything wrong with that.



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