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Originally Posted by watermelonman,Sep 3 2005, 07:17 PM
Again, all I'm saying is that Apple should be evaluated based on what they actually do with the technology, not what the technology is called or who invented it or what else it might be capable of doing. The other details of various acts of war aren't really relevant, they were brought up to illustrate a point. Who ever pulls the trigger is the murderer, not the manufacturer of the gun, the inventor of a new material used in the gun, the store who sold the gun, or the body responsible for licensing the ownership of the gun.
That isn't necessarily Apple doing it... it's apple introducing the tech that others (or apple) could do it.
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Originally Posted by watermelonman,Sep 3 2005, 07:34 PM
It does limit things but the upside is undeniable. How many years have Intel and Microsoft been dreaming of 64bit address spaces? How many months did it take Apple to make the transition?
Honestly, I'm at the point where I have no problem spending an extra ten bucks on a network card and an extra twenty on a memory module for the piece of mind that it will all actually work together.
That's why I bought an S2000, too. The one and only point that Miata troll (JLB) ever had was that for pure performance per dollar you could do better than the S2000 by buying a Miata and spending thousands on modifications and weeks of your life messing with the thing. Cool, if that's what you want, but that's not what I want.
Nothing is wrong with talking about the problems in Apple's products. I just don't think this is one of the problems.
Honestly, I'm at the point where I have no problem spending an extra ten bucks on a network card and an extra twenty on a memory module for the piece of mind that it will all actually work together.
That's why I bought an S2000, too. The one and only point that Miata troll (JLB) ever had was that for pure performance per dollar you could do better than the S2000 by buying a Miata and spending thousands on modifications and weeks of your life messing with the thing. Cool, if that's what you want, but that's not what I want.
Nothing is wrong with talking about the problems in Apple's products. I just don't think this is one of the problems.
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Just heard from what I think is a good source... OSX is available for Intel. It has TPM hacked out and apparently runs.
Here's the interesting part. It's blazingly fast on a P4... even faster than on Mac it is said.
I'm not making this claim... just telling you what i heard.
Here's the interesting part. It's blazingly fast on a P4... even faster than on Mac it is said.
I'm not making this claim... just telling you what i heard.
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A co-worker of mine installed it as well, and says the same thing. It's faster, even when running PowerPC apps in emulation mode.
So apparently, at least in it's current form, Apple's far more expensive hardware is inferior to Wintel hardware.
So apparently, at least in it's current form, Apple's far more expensive hardware is inferior to Wintel hardware.
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Originally Posted by jedwards,Sep 4 2005, 11:16 AM
This is true. My concern is that as i understand TPM it's basically a back door for software companies. It would be possible for companies to code in your inability to do something (such as open a file in another software) or actually delete things on your drive.
That isn't necessarily Apple doing it... it's apple introducing the tech that others (or apple) could do it.
That isn't necessarily Apple doing it... it's apple introducing the tech that others (or apple) could do it.
Anyway, the way this stuff works is that capabilities can only be taken away moving down the chain. If the operating system doesn't extend the functionality to applications, they can't make use of it.
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Originally Posted by jedwards,Sep 4 2005, 11:17 AM
Bottom line. What would be wrong (except to Apples business model) if they were to allow others to build and sell equipment? Apple could still do it.
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Originally Posted by jedwards,Sep 4 2005, 04:15 PM
Just heard from what I think is a good source... OSX is available for Intel. It has TPM hacked out and apparently runs.
Here's the interesting part. It's blazingly fast on a P4... even faster than on Mac it is said.
I'm not making this claim... just telling you what i heard.
Here's the interesting part. It's blazingly fast on a P4... even faster than on Mac it is said.
I'm not making this claim... just telling you what i heard.