when you are afraid to call send email or a picture from your phone.

 

I think it's more cultural than it is insecurity... young girls are "taught" that the guy should ask her out, not the other way. Though once a relationship is established, I don't know why there would be a barrier.

 

Or they are just bitches

 

That seems to be my situation, Mikey.

 

I think this is

 

Why, J? I know a lot of women who flat out refuse to make a first move... if you look at culture - movies, television, etc - the guy is almost always the one asking. It's just like the "perfect wedding" fantasy that most women seem to have.

 

Thats not normal in this area.... if I wait its always the guys I'm not interested in... Maybe its just the mid west... I almost always make the first move

 

umm... yea south of mason dixon.... its all bout the guy asking the girl... just that southern gentlemen hospitality garbage that hurts me cuz I'm so frackin shy and gutless I never hardly get to show the hospitality side.. I always end up showing the nervous wreck

 

I think that the mid west is :special: