Caution: follows:

Provocative thread, folks!

UnaB,

I enjoyed the history and references in your post.

What bothers me about the Torah for the purposes of this discussion is that it is very sexist. The representation of women as a distraction to men or company for men is a shamelessly male perspective, and I can't help feeling that it's dated.

I've always felt that Jewish culture focuses on learning and achievement at its core. To me, this has always been the most appealing thing about it. So, why abide by scripture that promulgates a stereotype? These rules say "this is your place, live with it." Should people really accept that? And, especially, should women?

My personal view of women in the clergy, as an atheist, is clearly not relevant in this thread, so I'll abstain from an opinion (must be a first! ).

 

If any religion can turn water into wine, I'll join up

 

What if we just diluted the water with wine to make watery wine?!?!?!?!?!

 

Ahhh, the old naughty publican trick

Is there a religion which can turn toilet paper into money

 

I don't know........... I wouldn't fancy wiping my a$$ with small change.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by JonBoy
[B]

Fair enough.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by The Unabageler
[B]When the Torah talks about creating Adam it concludes "...male and female He created them" (Genesis 1:27).

 

seems like a pretty serious thread for the corner

 

but not too serious

 

for a...