[QUOTE]Originally posted by ltweintz
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Bring up some points of debate and I'm sure others will disscuss it Charlie.

 

Man, I've also got to stop banging my head.

See? It's becoming a habit.

Apparently banging your head against a wall uses 150-300 calories an hour (depending on the mass of your head).

 

Let me mention one other thing about women in Judaism....according to strict Halachic law, a wife can file for divorce if the man witholds sex! Pleasurable sex is a right for a wife in a marriage, and it's the man's job to provide that for her.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by The Unabageler
[B]Let me mention one other thing about women in Judaism....according to strict Halachic law, a wife can file for divorce if the man witholds sex!

 

While a woman witholding sex is bad for the relationship and frowned upon, a husband cannot ask for a divorce because of it. It is part of the man's duties as a husband to please his wife. Just trying to illustrate nonsexism and gender balance in the culture The husband owns everything the woman owns, but he does not own her and would be a bad husband to not obey her (goes back to the internal/external differences and pros/cons).

I'm Jewish by birth and religion. When I was about 17 I blew it off to try and find my own answers, I wasn't happy with how my life was going. I studied many religions and picked and choosed what I liked best about them. Then when I went back and looked at Judaism, I saw that all the parts I liked and then some! Having come to the independent solution of my ancestral religion made it a very easy choice to return to studying it! There's a word in Judaism for what I did, Baal Teshuva. A basic translation is master of return/repentance (Ideas in Hebrew are hard to express in English).

oy! this is turning too serious for the corner, but I'm glad that everyone here is reasonable and respectful. Threads like this have turned real nasty in OT.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by The Unabageler
[B]While a woman witholding sex is bad for the relationship and frowned upon, a husband cannot ask for a divorce because of it.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by JonBoy
[B]I've got to stop seeing both sides of the coin and just be a narrowminded, theologically-minded S2000 fan and hopeful future owner.

 

Well, depends on how you look at it. I bought into a company that's going public shortly. I bought in VERY low and now have roughly $60K USD to show for it - I could conceivably buy one now (but I wouldn't). When the company goes public, I'm hoping more for $600K, but we'll see. I have to buy a "dream" home and such for my wife first - an S2K will come third or fourth on the list (1. clear any debt (not much) 2. buy home 3. buy wife new car 4. buy me new car). We'll see. I could be a mere five months away, but I could also be a year away. Assuming nothing better comes out between now and then, I would say that I'll have one within a year.

However, I'm still completing university (starting my fifth year in September - my engineering program is six years) so unless that investment comes through, I'm not getting an S2000 for about five or six years.

We'll see.

 

Well........you can do it. I had to drive a $500 POS '79 Toyota Corolla to save up for mine. If you want it enough, you'll do just about anything!

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ltweintz
[B]Well........you can do it.