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Also I've asked a couple times but no one has offered an answer. Will saving $15-20 really make all of the difference between all of this complaining and everyone being content? In the context of the weekend's cost, that is such a small sum I find it difficult to believe that is all the savings we need. So more to the point of the question - do people want/expect the event to be free?
When Mods and people with a lot of fancy red and gold stars on this page say that I shouldn't register... huge red flag. I'll pay for quality. I'm not a fan of arbitrarily paying for something because it's the thing to do. If the event is improved and the price just so happens to go down as well, even better! It's been said that 67% of the fee goes to the banquet. If we scrap that, we save $40. Take that difference and put it towards another ball park night or an alternative of some sort. I'm sure I'll have better idea's once I get to the dragon again with this group.
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I think we don't want to lose Fontana. Example, the Fiat group will be down there the same weekend as us and they are scattered all over the place because their main hotel, called the Tally ho inn is too small and over 30 mins from the Dragon.
I hate to say it, but the fiat group is super organized. Links for reference
https://fs24.formsite.com/Brett67/form15/index.html
https://www.facebook.com/FiatOnTheDragon?ref=ts&fref=ts
We ruffle feathers, Fontana could say, go pound sand and some other group with 100+ cars could swoop in and we could be in big trouble.
I'm not going to lie, the food at the banquet was absolutely horrible. I drove home right after the banquet and I was really worried about food sickness due to the fact the hot food was a room temperature and kinda slimy. I was so hungry after the long day of diving, had a 9 hour drive ahead of me, and I paid my registration fee I held my nose and ate. Any other circumstance I would have skipped the food.
Also, I see a rift between the "new school" and "old school". That will happen. New school wants some change, old school says, if it ain't broken, don't fix it. Hopefully we all will have a common ground concerning the future of this great event and have a mix of tradition with a twist of new ideas that are embraced by the old school guys.
On that note, there is nothing wrong with debate. It will make this event even better.
My question, in the realm of attendance, where does 2015 rank? Thanks.
I hate to say it, but the fiat group is super organized. Links for reference
https://fs24.formsite.com/Brett67/form15/index.html
https://www.facebook.com/FiatOnTheDragon?ref=ts&fref=ts
We ruffle feathers, Fontana could say, go pound sand and some other group with 100+ cars could swoop in and we could be in big trouble.
I'm not going to lie, the food at the banquet was absolutely horrible. I drove home right after the banquet and I was really worried about food sickness due to the fact the hot food was a room temperature and kinda slimy. I was so hungry after the long day of diving, had a 9 hour drive ahead of me, and I paid my registration fee I held my nose and ate. Any other circumstance I would have skipped the food.
Also, I see a rift between the "new school" and "old school". That will happen. New school wants some change, old school says, if it ain't broken, don't fix it. Hopefully we all will have a common ground concerning the future of this great event and have a mix of tradition with a twist of new ideas that are embraced by the old school guys.
On that note, there is nothing wrong with debate. It will make this event even better.
My question, in the realm of attendance, where does 2015 rank? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Habitforming' timestamp='1427482037' post='23557220
I was talking with someone about this on PM, and am going to go ahead and offer it here.
I think a group of us should get together during the event, probably Saturday following the banquet, to discuss what could be improved and how to proceed in doing so. I'd also like to see some new blood step up and help organize the event, though I'll leave that to Ken and the other official organizers to decide.
Anyone interested in a pow wow?
I think a group of us should get together during the event, probably Saturday following the banquet, to discuss what could be improved and how to proceed in doing so. I'd also like to see some new blood step up and help organize the event, though I'll leave that to Ken and the other official organizers to decide.
Anyone interested in a pow wow?
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Originally Posted by sam_spider' timestamp='1427482312' post='23557227
[quote name='Habitforming' timestamp='1427482037' post='23557220']
I was talking with someone about this on PM, and am going to go ahead and offer it here.
I think a group of us should get together during the event, probably Saturday following the banquet, to discuss what could be improved and how to proceed in doing so. I'd also like to see some new blood step up and help organize the event, though I'll leave that to Ken and the other official organizers to decide.
Anyone interested in a pow wow?
I was talking with someone about this on PM, and am going to go ahead and offer it here.
I think a group of us should get together during the event, probably Saturday following the banquet, to discuss what could be improved and how to proceed in doing so. I'd also like to see some new blood step up and help organize the event, though I'll leave that to Ken and the other official organizers to decide.
Anyone interested in a pow wow?
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I'll pow wow. Maybe at, before or after the Mod/CO meeting?
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Originally Posted by Habitforming' timestamp='1427482333' post='23557229
Also I've asked a couple times but no one has offered an answer. Will saving $15-20 really make all of the difference between all of this complaining and everyone being content? In the context of the weekend's cost, that is such a small sum I find it difficult to believe that is all the savings we need. So more to the point of the question - do people want/expect the event to be free?
When Mods and people with a lot of fancy red and gold stars on this page say that I shouldn't register... huge red flag. I'll pay for quality. I'm not a fan of arbitrarily paying for something because it's the thing to do. If the event is improved and the price just so happens to go down as well, even better! It's been said that 67% of the fee goes to the banquet. If we scrap that, we save $40. Take that difference and put it towards another ball park night or an alternative of some sort. I'm sure I'll have better idea's once I get to the dragon again with this group.
Let's leave it up to Ken and Andy to decide when they'd like to get together. I'm down to sit down and talk turkey.
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Event Weekend Pass is $50 per FIAT
Includes two meals, t-shirt and name badge laynard!!
$50 per FIAT
REGISTRATION INCLUDES:
(Weekend pass covers driver and passengers for all activities and two dinners)
- Souvenir Event Name Badge Lanyard for Driver (Passenger extras are available)
- Maps and directions with GPS coordinates and meet-up spots for organized drives
- Guided Drives (spirited and relaxed)
- H.P.S.I. sponsored Friday night dinner & Bonfire at the Tally Ho Inn
- Eurocompulsion sponsored FIAT on the Dragon Saturday Night BBQ dinner & Bonfire at the Tally Ho Inn
- One official event T-Shirt (specify size, extras available)
- Three Raffle Tickets for prizes to be drawn on Saturday night
- Bonfires & Social Time at the Tally Ho Inn
- Parking onto Event Field at the Tally Ho Inn
- Official Eurocompulsion Tech assistance
Includes two meals, t-shirt and name badge laynard!!
$50 per FIAT
REGISTRATION INCLUDES:
(Weekend pass covers driver and passengers for all activities and two dinners)
- Souvenir Event Name Badge Lanyard for Driver (Passenger extras are available)
- Maps and directions with GPS coordinates and meet-up spots for organized drives
- Guided Drives (spirited and relaxed)
- H.P.S.I. sponsored Friday night dinner & Bonfire at the Tally Ho Inn
- Eurocompulsion sponsored FIAT on the Dragon Saturday Night BBQ dinner & Bonfire at the Tally Ho Inn
- One official event T-Shirt (specify size, extras available)
- Three Raffle Tickets for prizes to be drawn on Saturday night
- Bonfires & Social Time at the Tally Ho Inn
- Parking onto Event Field at the Tally Ho Inn
- Official Eurocompulsion Tech assistance
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Ok, some of the comments on the last page are coming across pretty assholeish and were pissing me off. cover ups and lies? really? 
This is my favorite event of the whole year and the idea that people for whatever reason, too cheap, too cool, etc that don't want to pay for it could ruin the event annoys me a lot.
I think there is definitely room for change and improvement, but right before the event is probably not the best time for it. It kind of puts a damper on the excitement with people bitching before the event even starts. I think a pow wow/ round table etc round table at the event is a good idea and it would be great to get more people involved in planning.
This is my favorite event of the whole year and the idea that people for whatever reason, too cheap, too cool, etc that don't want to pay for it could ruin the event annoys me a lot.
I think there is definitely room for change and improvement, but right before the event is probably not the best time for it. It kind of puts a damper on the excitement with people bitching before the event even starts. I think a pow wow/ round table etc round table at the event is a good idea and it would be great to get more people involved in planning.
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Ok, some of the comments on the last page are coming across pretty assholeish and were pissing me off. cover ups and lies? really?
This is my favorite event of the whole year and the idea that people for whatever reason, too cheap, too cool, etc that don't want to pay for it could ruin the event annoys me a lot.
I think there is definitely room for change and improvement, but right before the event is probably not the best time for it. It kind of puts a damper on the excitement with people bitching before the event even starts. I think a pow wow/ round table etc round table at the event is a good idea and it would be great to get more people involved in planning.
This is my favorite event of the whole year and the idea that people for whatever reason, too cheap, too cool, etc that don't want to pay for it could ruin the event annoys me a lot.
I think there is definitely room for change and improvement, but right before the event is probably not the best time for it. It kind of puts a damper on the excitement with people bitching before the event even starts. I think a pow wow/ round table etc round table at the event is a good idea and it would be great to get more people involved in planning.
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Originally Posted by goldenfri' timestamp='1427485304' post='23557317
Ok, some of the comments on the last page are coming across pretty assholeish and were pissing me off. cover ups and lies? really?
This is my favorite event of the whole year and the idea that people for whatever reason, too cheap, too cool, etc that don't want to pay for it could ruin the event annoys me a lot.
I think there is definitely room for change and improvement, but right before the event is probably not the best time for it. It kind of puts a damper on the excitement with people bitching before the event even starts. I think a pow wow/ round table etc round table at the event is a good idea and it would be great to get more people involved in planning.
This is my favorite event of the whole year and the idea that people for whatever reason, too cheap, too cool, etc that don't want to pay for it could ruin the event annoys me a lot.
I think there is definitely room for change and improvement, but right before the event is probably not the best time for it. It kind of puts a damper on the excitement with people bitching before the event even starts. I think a pow wow/ round table etc round table at the event is a good idea and it would be great to get more people involved in planning.
