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Taming the Dragon with a S2000?

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Old Apr 24, 2014 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by RedCelica
28 south of 74 is really really fun too

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/35.3716398,-83.5041265/Franklin,+NC+28734/@35.3098213,-83.5173937,11z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m8!4m7!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0x8859251b3c34 1e5b:0x7d6abd5c00dca225!2m2!1d-83.3815429!2d35.1823171
That is my favorite road!!!!
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Old Apr 26, 2014 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by SheDrivesIt
Originally Posted by Davo307' timestamp='1398132745' post='23123427
spent LAST weekend at the Dragon. Most amazing experience of my life. my ap1 made it a hell of a trip, especially when pushed to the absolute limit. random ap1 driver joined us for a night tear through the dragon and nearly went off inches in front of me. front tires were teetering on the edge. guy got lucky. but an 08, youre fine, i say do 1 run through and back with vsc on and then take it off. good tires will be the most important part
Do NOT turn off your VSC on a public road, ESPECIALLY on the Dragon. It would be a really foolish thing to do. VSC on the S2K is not at all intrusive. If it is engaged, you are pushing too hard.
Lol, at it being "foolish" to drive the dragon without VSC. Plenty of us have pre-2006 s2000s and have driven the dragon (and -gasp- at various race tracks) without spontaneously bursting into a fireball. It's not that hard if you know how to drive.
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Old Apr 26, 2014 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by jeffbrig
Lol, at it being "foolish" to drive the dragon without VSC. Plenty of us have pre-2006 s2000s and have driven the dragon (and -gasp- at various race tracks) without spontaneously bursting into a fireball. It's not that hard if you know how to drive.
It's not only foolish, it's stupid to turn it off if you've done all of your driving with it on. Maybe if you spent a month or two driving in all kinds of situations with it off, and knew what to expect, that would be different. But to hit the Dragon and turn it off is stupid. (and I've owned both an '04 and a '08, so I've done it both ways).
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Old Apr 26, 2014 | 02:08 PM
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Old Apr 26, 2014 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by kgf3076
Originally Posted by jeffbrig' timestamp='1398529891' post='23131210
Lol, at it being "foolish" to drive the dragon without VSC. Plenty of us have pre-2006 s2000s and have driven the dragon (and -gasp- at various race tracks) without spontaneously bursting into a fireball. It's not that hard if you know how to drive.
It's not only foolish, it's stupid to turn it off if you've done all of your driving with it on. Maybe if you spent a month or two driving in all kinds of situations with it off, and knew what to expect, that would be different. But to hit the Dragon and turn it off is stupid. (and I've owned both an '04 and a '08, so I've done it both ways).
Very well, let's back up a step and say it's foolish to have done all your driving with it on

It's amazing that only a few short years ago tech like VSA, DSC, etc etc were only available on very high end, expensive cars, and yet the majority of us still got on OK without it. It's a shame we still can't.
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Old Apr 26, 2014 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Habitforming
Originally Posted by kgf3076' timestamp='1398538453' post='23131341
[quote name='jeffbrig' timestamp='1398529891' post='23131210']
Lol, at it being "foolish" to drive the dragon without VSC. Plenty of us have pre-2006 s2000s and have driven the dragon (and -gasp- at various race tracks) without spontaneously bursting into a fireball. It's not that hard if you know how to drive.
It's not only foolish, it's stupid to turn it off if you've done all of your driving with it on. Maybe if you spent a month or two driving in all kinds of situations with it off, and knew what to expect, that would be different. But to hit the Dragon and turn it off is stupid. (and I've owned both an '04 and a '08, so I've done it both ways).
Very well, let's back up a step and say it's foolish to have done all your driving with it on

It's amazing that only a few short years ago tech like VSA, DSC, etc etc were only available on very high end, expensive cars, and yet the majority of us still got on OK without it. It's a shame we still can't.
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With the experience level of people buying S2ks at the present, they need all the safety precautions possible. We've already seen what happens when someone turns it off and then drives beyond his ability. It's quite possible that the same car-b-que would have happened even with VSA on, but with it off, the driver was totally out of his league.
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Old Apr 26, 2014 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SheDrivesIt
If it is engaged, you are pushing too hard.
I guess I shouldn't have bumped up against VSA all weekend then. :burnrubber:
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Old Apr 28, 2014 | 04:13 AM
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I just see no reason to turn VSA off on public roads. It's there for a reason. Sure, there are plenty without it, but if you do have it, why not use it. I can go plenty fast (and within my limits) with it on.
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Old Apr 28, 2014 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by RedCelica
I just see no reason to turn VSA off on public roads.
OP, all comments are valid points, we each are different and you should learn your own taste.

My personal taste is that I think VSA is a joke and I enjoy having bald tires combined with some opposite lock. At relatively sane slower speeds though
Having these sticky new rear tires is just KILLING me.
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Old Apr 28, 2014 | 10:23 AM
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Are you in an FRS or an s2000 when doing this? slow speed + opposite lock = FRS
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