I wasn't angry and I even said so in a follow up post. I am not angry now. You are more than welcome to do whatever you like. I am just illustrating points.

I am sorry we don’t have 9 options for registering or an a la carte attendance menu you can chose from.... I don’t think you realize what it takes to track what could possibly be hundreds of people and keep their information correct.

We planned an event not a meet. The event is centered around a meet for sure... but we wanted to offer more. Is standing/sitting/laying around in a parking lot for 8 hours enough for everyone or would you all like diversions throughout the day??

We did not set out to please everyone (it’s impossible) but only to offer a venue that had some appeal beyond a public park and an open air pavilion.

The fee goes to a lot of things. Last year it went to renting a parking lot. We decided to kick it up a level and offer a car related venue with historical background. We thought this would be an add value and make the event better than last year...we did not think it would be a detractor.

If you don’t want to go to the museums, don't go to them. Think of the money (that would have gone to the museum ticket) as a donation to the efforts and time put into planning the aspects that you DO want to participate in (planning the event, planning any group drive or other activity, etc).

40 is the least we could have charged and still give you all what we are giving you. Cheaper options could be had but at a cost to quality and dependability.

One last question to attempt to illustrate perspective (at least my perspective) on your request: You say you would like to do the carting event. Assume that it’s going to be a package price like our event. If you don’t like turn 6 and turn 8, are you going to ask them if you can do it for free?


If you want to come to the event, please come to the event. Either way, I would rather you join us and have a good time (no matter if you paid or not) than to think we are mad at the situation you describe or think we are some kind of money hungry venture that is only worried about bottom line.

We have points to make just like you do and I don’t want you or anyone else to think we hold grudges or think less of someone because they choose not to pay.


Scott mis-spoke a little earlier....the proceeds of this event go directly to funding future events. It will not, in any way, support the SPGP efforts as that is a separate function entirely. In the past, the meets we have planned and executed did help support the SPGP event but the environment surrounding that event has changed quite a bit and it will have to live and survive on its own.


just my .02 worth
RoB

 

so much emotion lol

 

Might be interested in karting depending on the price.

 

if that's the .02 speech what's the .10 cent version look like...

no kart.. no Don ( saw him awhile back ).. if i can make it i'll be happy just to see folks...

 

I'm not angry, but I'm going to write an eleven paragraph sarcastic rant.

Yeah, that's a good way to be welcoming to potential attendees.

 

I for one really appreciate the effort you guys put into this and support whatever accommodates the majority.

That said, I'll be the odd-man out and still vote for a track day vs. carts.

Even though fellowship is such a big part of these events, the BEST part of last year's event was the group drive on Sat and track day on Sun. At the end of the day, I own this car to drive and spending time in it driving with like-minded people is what makes this type of event such a unique opportunity. Even though the Ocala cart venue looks nice, I can do that anytime I want. Having all S2000's at the track is really impossible to duplicate on your own.

The track day WillieGee organized last year in Gainesville was awesome! The track is faster and more interesting than an autocross, but safer and less hard on a vehicle than a day at Sebring, Homestead, etc. Plus, if I recall, it was $125? for all day which is about 1/3 to 1/4 of what it costs to take a car to any HPDE. There is really no better (legal) way to enjoy this car than at a track.

Definitely in for a scenic drive if there is one.

 

thanks man.


I think the reason the cart day was suggested is that it is:
1. a bit cheaper
2. easier to organize
3. allowed for people who dont want to risk their car to do something competative etc
4. local to the event on saturday


as far as I know right now, nothing is set in stone. If people would like to do a track day that sunday, I would need some people to spearhead that initiative since we are not local to the area and I honestly have never tried to organize a track day.

I guess we would need to pull the trigger on one or the other as trying to do both might diffuse the day too much and pull organizers in too many directions.

I am open to suggestions regarding sunday. it was a hopeful add on to the saturday event in general so it is open for discussion and planning logistics...

 

Really guys and gals, I don’t want to come off sounding crass or insensitive. This is an open discussion. No emotion or fevered tempers. We are trying to provide something and that something comes at a cost.

Here is how honest and open I am about it:

Proceeds (if any) go directly to run future events. No paydays, draws, or stipends to ANYONE.

We are actually considering incorporating and running a legitimate business to deal with future events. Our goal is to make each one better and better, one day hoping to schedule multi-day events with conference space and dinners etc. All of this takes capital. No one has a few thousand dollars to throw at this venture to “start us up”. We have to start small and get the ball rolling.

We as a group of individuals saw a void; we are attempting to fill that void. Now, as I am sure you all have seen/heard/felt, we have some drama surrounding our enthusiasm and “out of the gate” approach to producing this event. Our stance is simply this: we did something because nothing was happening on a statewide level. There have been no PMs or discussions in the CO community on a statewide event. There has been no chatter from any corner of the state regarding doing something on this level. There has been plenty “reaction” to our announcement (to be sure) but nothing proactive beforehand. My only suggestion to that is......become proactive.

Our event last year was considered by many to be a great success. We are attempting to do it even better this time. At the same price break as last year, we think we are providing a much better event this time around.

We have a current committee of about 10 people helping put this event together. This is our current management group. These are people that got together and decided to do something fun and positive. We welcome other committee members and we also welcome input from anyone on ideas for future events and/or ability to help with planning and marketing to vendors etc.

Without going on for hours, this is where we are and what we are attempting, plain and simple. I don’t want any scuttlebutt going around or animosity about anything we are doing. There is no man behind the curtain on this thing. Just a few guys wanting to do something cool for our community.

 

I welcome your perspective on the same issues presented to me at a time when YOU plan an event like this.

If you read sarcasm in my posts, that is a judgment about what you think of me as a person and I have no control over that. I have stated 3 times now that this is not about my feelings....I am making points, points that are congruent with the position we have as the promoters and producers of the event.

If you produced an event that had a cost associated with it, would you welcome people to attend the event for free? Would all the other attendees be OK with people just showing up for free when everyone else paid for attendance??

I want to go to Disneyworld for free because I have to walk down Main Street to get to Tomorrowland and I don’t like Main Street.......THAT’S sarcasm.

Now, if you have distinct issues with ANYTHING we are attempting to produce, or why, or how we do it...I welcome the chance to debate it openly right here in this thread. That goes for anyone. I will respond to any questions or concerns from anyone and will do so with full disclosure.....

 

I like the idea of the 'meet' but the event piece with a museum is not appealing in the least. I feel like I'd be driving 4 hours (or whatever it is) to go on a field trip like i'm 10 or something. No knocking those who want to do it, but its just not me.

I really like the idea of the track day from last year (even though I didnt' go) and the karting this year seems pretty cool as well. But the museum? Not so much.

Where did the idea for this come from? I get the sense that there wasn't a lot of public vote (or apparently fellow mod input) to arrive at this years Supermeet arrangements.