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Originally Posted by Willie Gee,Jul 20 2010, 06:35 PM
you race it on the track?
auto X?
auto X?
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I'll answer your question as it realtes to your initial post.
Regarding: "i do plan to drag race it at the track in the near future"
The S2000 is a lousy drag car. It was not designed for strait line acceleration. A muscle car with high HP and low weight would make for a superior drag car. Even with a turbo, the S2K will be out performed by most American muscle with proper set up. Ask Speedy, he was a drag racer for a long time and is quite accomplished.
Regarding: "and i drift every corner i see."
The S2K is a balanced vehicle designed to take corners as fast as possible. Whereas oversteer can be achieved, and can be useful, the S2K is far better suited for scalpel like handling and podium finishes at local Auto-X events. Drifting "every corner i see" is a little excessive. It does not demonstrate proper respect for your own safety and the safety of others. By doing so on the street your are subjecting your car, yourself and others to great risk. You will end up spinning out and hitting something. I hope I am not nearby.
Regarding: "honestly i drive it around town like if i were at the track"
Proper driving skills at the track demonstrate the qualities of a good risk manager. That is, they run "risk calculations" very quickly, as in "Can I make that corner going this fast, and is there room for me to pass at this speed" all the while keeping the rubber side down (and shiny side up), balancing oversteer, braking and acceleration and finding the best line on the track. There are enough variables on a racetrack to make it dangerous.
On the street, those variables multiply and uncertainly lurks with every step. The other cars on the road and the pedestrians are not prepared in any way for a race car to be on the street with them. You are trying to maintain control of your car at the very limit, that is, as fast as you can possibly go, while others are trying to get to work, or pick up their kids from school. Their primary goal is safety, yours is speed.
The absolute unpredictability of others on the street creates unmanageable risk at the limit. Only a fool would engage in such a risk.
Regarding: "whats gay about driving a sports car like it was meant to be driven?"
Keep in mind you have a "sportscar." Not a "racecar." You are not at the track. It is justifiable to take exit ramps with spirit, to accelerate quickly while merging. Too redline while passing someone. But to drift every corner and drive with the aggressiveness of someone trying to win a race is not only foolish, it's asinine.
The S2K is designed for mountain roads with the top down, and a pleasant +1 smiling at your side. It is made for the pure enjoyment of driving. Out of the factory it is not a 10/10ths track monster. It's a sportscar, enjoy it as such.
That said, if you are "risk manager" by nature and enjoy pushing limits, there are many opportunities to do so at an Auto-X (great place to start) and High Performance Driving Events, at places like Sebring. Prepare to be humbled, for there is alot to learn. But it's fun as hell, and its the proper environment for aggressive driving and finding your (and the cars) limits.
Regarding: "i do plan to drag race it at the track in the near future"
The S2000 is a lousy drag car. It was not designed for strait line acceleration. A muscle car with high HP and low weight would make for a superior drag car. Even with a turbo, the S2K will be out performed by most American muscle with proper set up. Ask Speedy, he was a drag racer for a long time and is quite accomplished.
Regarding: "and i drift every corner i see."
The S2K is a balanced vehicle designed to take corners as fast as possible. Whereas oversteer can be achieved, and can be useful, the S2K is far better suited for scalpel like handling and podium finishes at local Auto-X events. Drifting "every corner i see" is a little excessive. It does not demonstrate proper respect for your own safety and the safety of others. By doing so on the street your are subjecting your car, yourself and others to great risk. You will end up spinning out and hitting something. I hope I am not nearby.
Regarding: "honestly i drive it around town like if i were at the track"
Proper driving skills at the track demonstrate the qualities of a good risk manager. That is, they run "risk calculations" very quickly, as in "Can I make that corner going this fast, and is there room for me to pass at this speed" all the while keeping the rubber side down (and shiny side up), balancing oversteer, braking and acceleration and finding the best line on the track. There are enough variables on a racetrack to make it dangerous.
On the street, those variables multiply and uncertainly lurks with every step. The other cars on the road and the pedestrians are not prepared in any way for a race car to be on the street with them. You are trying to maintain control of your car at the very limit, that is, as fast as you can possibly go, while others are trying to get to work, or pick up their kids from school. Their primary goal is safety, yours is speed.
The absolute unpredictability of others on the street creates unmanageable risk at the limit. Only a fool would engage in such a risk.
Regarding: "whats gay about driving a sports car like it was meant to be driven?"
Keep in mind you have a "sportscar." Not a "racecar." You are not at the track. It is justifiable to take exit ramps with spirit, to accelerate quickly while merging. Too redline while passing someone. But to drift every corner and drive with the aggressiveness of someone trying to win a race is not only foolish, it's asinine.
The S2K is designed for mountain roads with the top down, and a pleasant +1 smiling at your side. It is made for the pure enjoyment of driving. Out of the factory it is not a 10/10ths track monster. It's a sportscar, enjoy it as such.
That said, if you are "risk manager" by nature and enjoy pushing limits, there are many opportunities to do so at an Auto-X (great place to start) and High Performance Driving Events, at places like Sebring. Prepare to be humbled, for there is alot to learn. But it's fun as hell, and its the proper environment for aggressive driving and finding your (and the cars) limits.
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damn you guys take everything to the hert. i dont litterally go around ALL the time drifting and going fast. what im trying to say is i definitely do race anything that gets next to me and i like a little powerslide every now and then. i didnt litterally mean i always go 120 down krome ave and drift everyday
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Originally Posted by s2papi,Jul 21 2010, 05:49 PM
what im trying to say is i definitely do race anything that gets next to me
If you want to race, do some autocrosses (and get your ass handed to you) or go to a drag strip (and get your ass handed to you) or start going to HPDE events.
Street racing isn't smart.