Trust me ! You can't aford them!

 

Ceramic pads?
On OEM rotors?
where and how much?

I'm also curious about the sub zero treated pads. Does that provide more grip, or just longer life?
Cost?

 

Thermal cycling the pads increases strength of the glue that holds the material together. Pads last about 65% longer and that means less brake dust. There is no data to tell if it decreases stopping distance but is should since the material is not shearing away as fast.

You can treat any pads and it runs $20 a set of four. I did a lot of pads for Cobalt Friction.

 

Hey Jeff, would "stronger" pads increase rotor wear if the rotors aren't treated as well? For $20 seems like a no-brainer whenever changing pads, but just want to make sure it wouldn't be increasing wear elsewhere.

 

sounds logical to me.
I'm guessing with a multi-thousand/ multi-million dollar race car, they are probably not concerned with a little extra rotor wear. Those rotors will only be around probably one race at the most.

It would also seem logical for us street/ enthusiastic drivers to maybe purchase a brake with a little higher (is that right?) coefficient of friction than is needed to take up the grip that the cryo is taking away.
...then you have the best of both worlds - less dust and more braking power.

 

clint and i got a bx of cermaic pads at autozone for 40$.

they work awesome and make no dust.

i cant remember what brand but theyre part number: 424872, i think. either that or: 020899.

wtf is cryoed whatever?

 

The glue is stronger and holds the pad material on longer. Doesn't mean that they will wear the rotors more.

Why would you treat the pads and not the rotors anyway?

 

Do the ceramics perform better than OEM?
what aftermarket/ performance pad would they compare to?

 

I would say Ceramics don't build up the heat and dissipate it better but they are more expensive. OEMs are good enough for everyday driving. Track driving may be different. I don't know what is best for that. Cobalt Friction's were a material also but they wouldn't disclose the composition.

 

The OEM pads on the S aren't all that bad for track use. I did start to notice some fade towards the end of the day, but there was still enough bite left in them to keep me from overshooting the turns.

However, if you want to do some serious track time, some decent cryo-treated rotors and brake pads will defenitely help. I ran EBC Green Stuff pads on my Mazdaspeed Protege and they held up great. Hawk pads are also very nice, but generate a lot of dust, and it seems to be thicker dust than with OEM pads.

I plan on going with the slotted Brembo replacement rotors and some more EBC green pads, both cryo-treated. I'll let you know how they do.