Comptech & Neuspeed improve handling - NOT!
08-02-2001, 09:34 AM
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Yeah! The actual improvement! Can't wait to see it at our Dyno meet! When are we going to have the Dyno day?
I just remember certain product claim theirs will gain few power, but when you combined with another product it might actually lose power? So, We need to find out the right combo!
I just remember certain product claim theirs will gain few power, but when you combined with another product it might actually lose power? So, We need to find out the right combo!
08-02-2001, 11:25 AM
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850,
I hear what you are saying. $6400 is a steep price to pay for any modifications.
I think, contrary to the numbers that Comptech was putting out on a SC S2K, you will DEFINITELY notice an additional 100hp from their supercharger. You are correct in the fact that the powercurve (low-end torque) does not change dramatically, but you will see a pretty significant increase above 6000rpm.
A great person to ask about this is Wesmaster out of HOU. Unfortunately, he busted a rear-end dragracing a LS1 but he will tell you that the motor can handle the forced induction and acceleration has dramatically increased, especially at VTEC. What concerns me is the rearend falling apart with the added hp.
Anyway, to each their own.... I'm thinking I will probably go this route at some point. I'll just have to be easy off the light but you should be able to surprise a Camaro SS/Firebird TA from a rolling 70mph.
Cheers,
I hear what you are saying. $6400 is a steep price to pay for any modifications.
I think, contrary to the numbers that Comptech was putting out on a SC S2K, you will DEFINITELY notice an additional 100hp from their supercharger. You are correct in the fact that the powercurve (low-end torque) does not change dramatically, but you will see a pretty significant increase above 6000rpm.
A great person to ask about this is Wesmaster out of HOU. Unfortunately, he busted a rear-end dragracing a LS1 but he will tell you that the motor can handle the forced induction and acceleration has dramatically increased, especially at VTEC. What concerns me is the rearend falling apart with the added hp.
Anyway, to each their own.... I'm thinking I will probably go this route at some point. I'll just have to be easy off the light but you should be able to surprise a Camaro SS/Firebird TA from a rolling 70mph.
Cheers,
08-02-2001, 12:18 PM
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Modifry,
Your keen sense for detail kills me
Good question.... I have always wondered why performance numbers can vary so significantly from one mag to another.
Your keen sense for detail kills me
Good question.... I have always wondered why performance numbers can vary so significantly from one mag to another.
08-02-2001, 08:00 PM
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Has anyone considered dropping in an NSX engine as a replacement?
I see this as the only option for increasing torque.
Anyone got a price on an inline 6 from Acura?
I see this as the only option for increasing torque.
Anyone got a price on an inline 6 from Acura?
08-03-2001, 05:00 AM
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NSX engine is too big! Too heavy! That's why the enigne sits in the meddle of the car! (If Honda had made the body in steel, it would be a bit too heavy for NSX too!)
You can't have both (with NA motor)! You want torque? You will have to give up HP! You want more Hp, you'll have to give up Torque!
The Hp is plenty! Lose a little weight, Try to squeeze it out a little more torque somewhere? That will be wonderful!
Inline 6? From Acura (Honda)???
I thought Honda only made V6, I5, I4, and I2. Was Honda BEAT an inline 3 cyclinders or 4?
You can't have both (with NA motor)! You want torque? You will have to give up HP! You want more Hp, you'll have to give up Torque!
The Hp is plenty! Lose a little weight, Try to squeeze it out a little more torque somewhere? That will be wonderful!
Inline 6? From Acura (Honda)???
I thought Honda only made V6, I5, I4, and I2. Was Honda BEAT an inline 3 cyclinders or 4?
08-03-2001, 05:59 AM
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I think that's actually a good idea!
There should be enough room for a inline 6. Plus line 6 makes more torque than the V6's! As for the extra weight from the I6, Honda can remove the airbox and place it where the battery sit; move the battery to the trunk. Redesign the gear box (Like the front engine Porsches:944, 928, 968) to the back like the transaxles rather the o-ring and pinion gears to keep the weight 50/50 balanced? I hope Honda Engineer is checking out our threads! Just an idea!
BTW, I still think there could be weight lost from the doors! Lighten the door, or make it CF or aluminmum. Make the suspension components with aluminmum. (hope that will not add TOO much to the COST!) Use after market billet calipers (like Wilwood's 4-piston calipers that I'm getting for my CRX will be only 2.5 lbs each vs original Honda calipers at 8.5 lbs each). Front and rear disc could be made into a larger ring disc mounted with aluminmum hubs! Take the top, top frame, and top motor off, add a bikini top (no rear window!)
Lose 300# or more! WOW! Sub 2500# with I6 (probably like 3.0 liter. If BMW can get 3.2 it to 333Hp, I think Honda can get it up to 300-360Hp without Forced induction!) The torque number could be some where over 250 ft/lb. WoW! I think I'm dreaming again!
Hey! anything could be possible, IF you got the money; I guess I just have to start saving money for it, when ever my dream will come true!
There should be enough room for a inline 6. Plus line 6 makes more torque than the V6's! As for the extra weight from the I6, Honda can remove the airbox and place it where the battery sit; move the battery to the trunk. Redesign the gear box (Like the front engine Porsches:944, 928, 968) to the back like the transaxles rather the o-ring and pinion gears to keep the weight 50/50 balanced? I hope Honda Engineer is checking out our threads!
Just an idea!BTW, I still think there could be weight lost from the doors! Lighten the door, or make it CF or aluminmum. Make the suspension components with aluminmum. (hope that will not add TOO much to the COST!) Use after market billet calipers (like Wilwood's 4-piston calipers that I'm getting for my CRX will be only 2.5 lbs each vs original Honda calipers at 8.5 lbs each). Front and rear disc could be made into a larger ring disc mounted with aluminmum hubs! Take the top, top frame, and top motor off, add a bikini top (no rear window!)
Lose 300# or more! WOW! Sub 2500# with I6 (probably like 3.0 liter. If BMW can get 3.2 it to 333Hp, I think Honda can get it up to 300-360Hp without Forced induction!) The torque number could be some where over 250 ft/lb. WoW! I think I'm dreaming again!
Hey! anything could be possible, IF you got the money; I guess I just have to start saving money for it, when ever my dream will come true!
08-03-2001, 08:35 AM
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I've checked few parts website; you can get a front end damaged (92') NSX for $7800! That's not bad! Looks like the whole rear end was okay; even from the windshield to the door! So, you have the trans, engine, and hopefully the ECU is good, and sale the rest for parts. I think that's great deal! I have seen Type-R motor sells for around $5,000
Just got another qoute on a 93 JDM NSX Motor (under 39,000 mile car), trans, wiring, and ECU for $5,500 in CA! So, not too bad to get and earlier model NSX motor (with Trans, wire and ECU) for some where around $5,000-$7,000 and may be a later model a bit more? Might be my next project car? NSX motor in a 84 CRX (weighs 1850 lbs stock with all interior!) in a rear engine configuration?
Just got another qoute on a 93 JDM NSX Motor (under 39,000 mile car), trans, wiring, and ECU for $5,500 in CA! So, not too bad to get and earlier model NSX motor (with Trans, wire and ECU) for some where around $5,000-$7,000 and may be a later model a bit more? Might be my next project car? NSX motor in a 84 CRX (weighs 1850 lbs stock with all interior!) in a rear engine configuration?
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