Yeah, we're talking about the '07, sorry I messed that fact up. I'm not the one who brought up that the car "blew up", and I've heard from four different people, w/o asking, that the guy blew his engine. I don't think it does have anything to do w/ the tune, turbo cars are tricky, but I think most people can agree that running a turbo'd 11:1 CR engine on a NEO is really pushing the envelope ... then again, that's why you kept the boost so low. But you're right, I don't know what happened or why the engine blew, I've only heard rumors, so I'll just say that you guys know what you're doing w/ your builds, and leave it at that. I know what you mean about the time period after the build, I sold a guy a turbo'd EG hatch that was running at 14lbs on the street/20lbs on the track reliably for two years ... two weeks later, the guy turned the boost up to see what would happen, missed 3rd and went into 1st, and blew the engine.

As far as the "argument" over the NEO goes, to straighten it out, I was saying that there was a shop in New England that was running a few drive-by-wire turbo'd S2ks on GReddy Emanage Ultimates w/o problems once GReddy came out with the software update so that it wouldn't fry the coils. The problem is that GReddy didn't tell anybody the nuts and bolts of what the software update did for like 6 months after they released it, so unless you tried it firsthand there was really no way to know. So, I was saying this to try to let him know that the Emanage Ultimate would've worked at the time, even though GReddy didn't authorize it yet for drive-by-wire S2ks, b/c the software update worked even though GReddy USA didn't really know what it did at the time. Brian was saying that it wouldn't work, and that's why you guys were custom-wiring a NEO in there ... it wasn't an "argument" like we were yelling at each other or anything, it was just a civil "argument" about what was going on with the E-manage Ultimate ... you can call it a civil discussion if you like. Sorry if I made it sound like we were about to throw punches or something ... it was like a normal discussion, just back and forth over whether it would've worked at the time, which went into whether it was safer to run the E-manage Ultimate or the NEO.

Like I said two or three times earlier in this thread, I didn't have a problem with the shop at all, I just had a problem with a couple things that Brian did to my car while it was there (one of which apparently was a miscommunication). I specifically stated that, after the dyno thing, you knocked the price down, and that you were cool and knew what you were talking about. For the record, what I said for Steve goes double for Noah ... I forgot about him being there b/c he wasn't working on my car, but he's cool and knows what he's doing.

For all I know, Brian is a freaking mastermind mechanic who was just having an off day with the e-brake thing, but you've gotta admit that if your only experience w/ a shop involved the mechanic leaving your e-brake on while he dyno'd the thing, you would be ... hesitant about taking it back there, and probably more apt to believe horror stories you heard about the shop. As far as the "FRIEND'S CAR" thing, I addressed it in my reply to Noah (as far as who the guy was and what he said), and said that I'd clear it up w/ him when I saw him, so until then I'll just shut the f*** up

 

Bernard told me that his car fell over the side of the dyno ... I might've misinterpreted what he said, I wasn't there, but I don't know what else he would've been saying. He told me that he was pissed about that guy Brian too, so I guess it's just a thing with him.

I did leave the stock exhaust there ... Brian asked me if I wanted to take it or leave it there when he came in and told me about cutting the metal hanger. I told him that I really couldn't use the exhaust anymore, or give it to anyone else, if the hanger was cut off, so he could keep it if he wanted to, or else I would throw it in my car and just leave it in my garage, and he said it was fine to leave it there.

 

My decision was not based on hear say at all.......just a decision made on my own. Nothing against your shop at all I just purchased parts some place else and when I purchased these parts its not like I weighed my options whether or not to go to Velocity Trends or not..........I just had a certain place that I purchase parts from regularly so I've stuck with them since.

 

I'm going to guess and say Aerotrends for your hood? Not really any other local places that sell aftermarket exterior parts.

The good thing about VT is they are good with Hondas, and they can get anything you want whether it be performance, cosmetics, wheels, tires, dyno time, etc. On top of that, Steve works his ass off and I hope the scene/industry improves here in Jax. We can't even compete with Orlando/Tampa/Miami.

 

Well since you responded I'll follow the trend. To me it looks like a bandwagon responce to me. I like it when folks back peddle (from your second responce)! You have alot of "I's" in your statement and alot of judgment yet have never stepped foot in VT. I like reading between the lines dude, and your statement above is a perfect example (no matter how you color it) of how HEAR SAY, makes folks make judgement.

"Um....I like burgers and I have been loyal to Burger King I have been going for years.....I will never go to Wendy's, Mcdonalds, etc."

Thats what your saying. Its cool I can respect that. What does your responce have to do then with VT then. Where's the substance. Justification for making a comment as such, so then to just come back and say "Oh its because I only buy my parts from here." C'mon dude. Why didn't you just say that from the get go? I can tell you why. Riding the "bash VT bandwagon."

Have a nice day. Maybe your colorful responce would fool a few underage chicks and keep mom and pop happy but I have been around for some time now buddy. Its insulting to be honest with you.

BTW just FYI Stage6 doesn't have a dyno any longer.

 

I appreciate all the love man. We sure as heck try our butts off to keep going and do good things for the industry here in N.Florida/S.Georgia. Thanks!

 

[QUOTE=velocitytrends,Oct 9 2008, 03:16 PM] Just like your avatar

 

Okay, wow. Looks like have some typing and explaining to do then.

So I give your shop "props" because I love the cars you guys build for your own personal use. You make me jealous about how quick you can make your cars, while still retaining a good physical feature and not going over board like some do i.e. cutting holes in exterior parts to "lose weight" or add a, i think it is called a rear bumper defusser, the long metal peice with the large holes in it to release air caught under the bumper at high speeds. Anyways, what I am getting at is you (Steve I do believe) know what you are talking about and build amazing cars.

Now, I have talked to some employees that have worked at your shop before and I do not agree wit what they say nor do I trust them. (I am NOT giving any names on this one) But I can assure you that you, Tommy, or (i forget other guys name. Black gentleman with the black/white STI).

As for the parts that are "worthless". I used a pretty harsh word here i guess. I apologize. The parts i am talking about are the Heavy, knock off rims that are cheap and are made for asthetic use. I would never purchase them for these reasons but others may feel differently about them.
Another thing was a sales man in there (younger guy) was trying to sell me a Hyperground kit for cheap performance stating "It would give me more torque for my lacking 00' Civic DX" That i did not believe so I did not purchase them.

The 05' Rio S2K. I should have stated AP2 then instead of 05'. I thought that was the year of it by memory. So 07', with the tricky throttle programming. I can understand how there were no Turbo kits at the time of the build. Now, when I said build before, I was simply stating Turbomkit install, fabrication and Tune. To me, that is a build. I suppose to others it is not since no motor work is being done. I was their talking to the builder, Mike, and he told me that the owner was setting up an interview with HondaTuning for his car and was going to get Mike into the article as well since we was the Man who fabricated the kit for it. Now, Through hear say (I should have stated that before) I was told by some fellow street guys that the owner blew his motor due to over boosting. Not sure how reliable the source was or even if they had heard from someone else, I just figured since i heard it from 3 different people, it had to be true. guessed wrong since you have the upper hand on that and still talk to the guy.

And the last thing was the cars that I laughed at. These were long time ago, possibly when your shop was located on Beach and Peach st. Mixed variety of cars. some civics, some eclipses, some integras, All of which looked like Pep boys on wheels. They had crap sounding exhaust cans (unsure if it was full exhaust or just muffler). When they popped their hoods, they had asthetic parts and they were full of cheer as they bragged about them too i.e. aftermarket spark plug covers, spark plug wires, short ram intakes. Just down right low quality cars (i say low quality instead of low budget because even though they were low budget, everything looked like it was just thrown together in a hurry. Now the only clue i had that they went to Velocity Trneds was the fact they had large stikers iver their windows. This could be misleading though so that is why I decided not to go into detail before.

I'm Sorry Steve if any of my information before was misleading. Hopefully his clears it up.

 

Please see the PM you sent me. Then ask yourself again "why cant we all just get along?"

Steve's just defending his business, which is his life. As would anyone who was in that position. I'd say VT has a right to do that. So far, it's not really an argument or anything, just some points being made back and forth. That's basically the purpose of the thread-- to see what everyone has to say about VT.

 

Point taken... Tis an entertaining thread