ASM 60mm VS ASM 70mm...
You're all crazy. 60mm exhausts are not going to make anywhere near what a 70 + tuning can. A 6-7 hp difference is HUGE when you're looking at exhausts - being that they only make small numbers anyway. If you're going to spend the money, get the best that their is (performance wise). I don't know why you're looking at ASM though - you can get the same product in T1R for 4 or 5 hundred dollars cheaper from AJR, looks just as good, and gives the same power.
Or, get some 2.75 piping fabbed up to fit your car, and buy a quality muffler. You'll have the same exact thing as your 1500 dollar ASM setup for only 400.
Or, get some 2.75 piping fabbed up to fit your car, and buy a quality muffler. You'll have the same exact thing as your 1500 dollar ASM setup for only 400.
Originally Posted by afwfjustin' date='Mar 21 2007, 05:00 PM
You're all crazy. 60mm exhausts are not going to make anywhere near what a 70 + tuning can. A 6-7 hp difference is HUGE when you're looking at exhausts - being that they only make small numbers anyway. If you're going to spend the money, get the best that their is (performance wise). I don't know why you're looking at ASM though - you can get the same product in T1R for 4 or 5 hundred dollars cheaper from AJR, looks just as good, and gives the same power.
Or, get some 2.75 piping fabbed up to fit your car, and buy a quality muffler. You'll have the same exact thing as your 1500 dollar ASM setup for only 400.
Or, get some 2.75 piping fabbed up to fit your car, and buy a quality muffler. You'll have the same exact thing as your 1500 dollar ASM setup for only 400.
Originally Posted by afwfjustin' date='Mar 21 2007, 08:19 PM
But the price is absolutely ludicrous... you can get some dynamat and do your trunk and doors and help with sound... just something to think about.
Originally Posted by afwfjustin' date='Mar 21 2007, 05:19 PM
But the price is absolutely ludicrous... you can get some dynamat and do your trunk and doors and help with sound... just something to think about.
$1500.00 dollars is not a ludicrous amount of money, most the exhaust systems available are in that range = Mugen, J's, Toda and others are more expensive = Amuse, ARC ($3500.00 for the ARC thats ludicrous
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Originally Posted by GPW03' date='Mar 21 2007, 03:08 PM
I realize the ASM is very expensive compared to ther systems, but I like the fact that it's a quiet 70mm. The T1R's are evry nice systems, but my fear is the 70mm may just be too loud for my liking.
Originally Posted by afwfjustin' date='Mar 21 2007, 07:19 PM
But the price is absolutely ludicrous... you can get some dynamat and do your trunk and doors and help with sound... just something to think about.
if you all haven't realized, THERE AREN"T PRICE POINTS FOR CAR PARTS THAT ARE DEVELOPED BY SHOPS FOR A REASON!!! please get that in your head, honestly, they can sell it for however much they want. They might not make as much money by having it so expensive. If you haven't realized, they don't have high prices to make a lot of money. The way shady companies make money is by selling shitloads of terrible products, and knock offs, with very cheap prices, to people in the US who are used to being able to go out and buy a knock off of anything.
maybe I am wrong . . . maybe
you won't have the same product if you go to some shop and have them build you an exhaust. even you know that.
the question wasn't about how he should spend his money, it was about two products made by ASM, if you can't answer it, then why take the time to respond.
I think most will tell you that the performance increase of the 70mm ASM is probably worth the slight increase in sound over the 60mm. From people posting on the site. The ASM is one of the quietest single 70mm exhausts available.
Originally Posted by circa86' date='Mar 22 2007, 10:20 PM
yes and adding more weight to your car is always an intelligent thing to do when trying to make your car faster.
if you all haven't realized, THERE AREN"T PRICE POINTS FOR CAR PARTS THAT ARE DEVELOPED BY SHOPS FOR A REASON!!! please get that in your head, honestly, they can sell it for however much they want. They might not make as much money by having it so expensive. If you haven't realized, they don't have high prices to make a lot of money. The way shady companies make money is by selling shitloads of terrible products, and knock offs, with very cheap prices, to people in the US who are used to being able to go out and buy a knock off of anything.
maybe I am wrong . . . maybe
you won't have the same product if you go to some shop and have them build you an exhaust. even you know that.
the question wasn't about how he should spend his money, it was about two products made by ASM, if you can't answer it, then why take the time to respond.
I think most will tell you that the performance increase of the 70mm ASM is probably worth the slight increase in sound over the 60mm. From people posting on the site. The ASM is one of the quietest single 70mm exhausts available.
if you all haven't realized, THERE AREN"T PRICE POINTS FOR CAR PARTS THAT ARE DEVELOPED BY SHOPS FOR A REASON!!! please get that in your head, honestly, they can sell it for however much they want. They might not make as much money by having it so expensive. If you haven't realized, they don't have high prices to make a lot of money. The way shady companies make money is by selling shitloads of terrible products, and knock offs, with very cheap prices, to people in the US who are used to being able to go out and buy a knock off of anything.
maybe I am wrong . . . maybe
you won't have the same product if you go to some shop and have them build you an exhaust. even you know that.
the question wasn't about how he should spend his money, it was about two products made by ASM, if you can't answer it, then why take the time to respond.
I think most will tell you that the performance increase of the 70mm ASM is probably worth the slight increase in sound over the 60mm. From people posting on the site. The ASM is one of the quietest single 70mm exhausts available.
I have decided to go with the ASM 70mm SS version.
Thanks all
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