Noone was home to receive it.

 

Efficiency is efficiency no matter how you cut it, there is a wrong way and right way to make and engine efficient and with efficiency comes horsepower. True, rules are rules if the HP limit in a given class is X then you better make X. I don't believe anyone is disputing this.

Who brought up drag? I have never even driven on a drag strip. What isn't reliable about making 275hp on a virtually stock engine? Surely I am not stressing anything more so then factory aside from the rev limit and that has proven itself quite safe. The only things in my engine that aren't Honda are my cams, which are manufactured by a company that builds camshafts that see over 19,000RPM in Super Bike racing. My valve train is built to IRL specs, pretty damn severe conditions for valve train parts, 200 laps at nearly 20K RPM. I would say reliablity is an issue for sure. Other then that everything internally is as Honda delivered it, the head hasn't even been off the block.

I can certainly say that it is pathetic that it took 13+ points of static compression to get to 300hp because it is. J's and the other Japanese Honda tuning companies make many great things for sure, but they leave much to be desired in the engine tuning department. One can be a great engine builder and not know a damn thing about BSFC, peak cylinder pressure, venturi, thermal expansion, atomization etc.

Again, I am not knocking J's, Spoon, or any of the other Japanese Honda tuners racing efforts. They do amazing things with chassis setup and the like, better then most running the cars for sure. But they are NOT the holy grail for Honda engine tuning.

 

i seem to remember someone bringing up a drag s2k, i wasn't directing that specifically to you...i may have been mistaken though.

i am not saying that japanese engine builders are the end all, my opinion is that US engine builders are much better at making hp while japanese builders are better at building reliable engines.

i would really like to see s2k racing out here done as they do in the super taikyu series in japan though and put an end to all of this debate i would be happy with the outcome no matter what.

 

Uh, companies make what people will buy. Unfortunately, most America has always been about being the biggest and the best. In a time when folks buy more house than they can afford on interest-only loans(speculative and d-u-m-b), it should be no suprise that the general public is consumed by numbers.

If the buying population were into buying reliability, companies here would be selling it. It's pure economics.

 

I don't even know where the assumed lack of reliability came from. The factory bottom end is pretty damn reliable, as with pretty much any inline 4 Honda power plant. the whole thing is freaking forged and girdled for god sakes. Putting 10psi to a stock bottom end is WAY more abusive then dropping in some cams.

 

Sorry, but I'm not a Honda fan nor is the American performance buying public solely JDM fans. I was speaking in generalities. I like and enjoy the S2000, but you'll never find me in a Civic, Accord, Camry, etc.

 

The motor indeed makes the hp announced. A guy here in Greece just installed it and the motor complimented with the all the other J's stuff made 313hp (about 273whp). The car is very very fast. He will be featured in a tuning magazine here in Greece soon and yesterday they did some tests. 0-100Km (-60mph) ---> 5 sec and 0-400m ---- 13 sec. The owner also had a street encounter with a M3 E46 and they floored from the 2nd shift up to 5th and the S2000 was more than 2 cars length ahead. He also has a 4.3 final gear installed. The car is really good. If you are interested , maybe i can refer the owner to this topic to give you more information.