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Old 08-15-2009, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by iDomN8U,Aug 15 2009, 09:06 AM
Sure it can be worse the your AP1 ecu.

You would think Spoon would lean out the mixture since even 03's ecu's still ran rich.

1 dyno pull is all you need, shouldn't cost more then $50 plus you get to see some results on paper
I'll weld a boung on my header and install my aem uego to check this out thanks for the tips!

On the worst case, i'll try to raise my fuel pressure to get more richer.
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As someone who ran the AP1 01 ecu in his 04 AP2 I would like to chime in about running the Spoon ECU in your AP2.

I tested both the factory 04 ECU, the 01 ECU, and the Spoon ECU at the drag strip. The 01 ECU netted me the fastest times. The Spoon ECU was the slowest. Driving the car on the highway with the Spoon ECU felt terrible, the engine didn't sound smooth at all. I felt like I was hurting the car. I quickly sold off the Spoon ECU as I do not believe it is well suited for the AP2.

I have an 03 ECU that I meant to try in my AP2 but never got around to. This thread is helpful because of the little trick for grounding the immobilizer. I'm going to do that to this 03 ECU and toss it in the 01 I'm driving right now. Thanks for saving me a trip to the dealer! haha
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Originally Posted by Mor.gan,Aug 11 2009, 09:53 PM
Pin/Wire 15 on the ECU Harness controls the FLR (Immobilizer). Ground that to the car and no more Immobilizer and you start the car right up.

Can someone elaborate on this a bit? Pin 15 from which connector?

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/resourc...Honda_S2000.php

I want to perform this mod inside the ECU and not on the harness, just like was done on my old Spoon ECU. I assume I'm grounding pin 15(from which connector?) to B2?

Feel free to PM me the info if you don't want to make it public.
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well I tried a15 to b2, that sure didn't do it, lol
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Why didn't u try b15
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Originally Posted by Stealth_SUX_,Aug 16 2009, 07:20 PM
Why didn't u try b15
because allmotorslut posted about whether or not he needed to jump the wire on the "longest" plug and then confirmed he had it working. The A plug is the longest plug, that's why I chose A15.

So I should be using B15 and grounding it to B2?
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Originally Posted by deathsled,Aug 16 2009, 10:46 AM
As someone who ran the AP1 01 ecu in his 04 AP2 I would like to chime in about running the Spoon ECU in your AP2.

I tested both the factory 04 ECU, the 01 ECU, and the Spoon ECU at the drag strip. The 01 ECU netted me the fastest times. The Spoon ECU was the slowest. Driving the car on the highway with the Spoon ECU felt terrible, the engine didn't sound smooth at all. I felt like I was hurting the car. I quickly sold off the Spoon ECU as I do not believe it is well suited for the AP2.

I have an 03 ECU that I meant to try in my AP2 but never got around to. This thread is helpful because of the little trick for grounding the immobilizer. I'm going to do that to this 03 ECU and toss it in the 01 I'm driving right now. Thanks for saving me a trip to the dealer! haha
Since i put my spoon ecu, the car run more smoother and power come quicker then my 2 last ecu(ap2, ap1 03) the vtec kick harder and the 8-9k rpm goes way more quickly beside ap1 03 ecu and you still feel the power threw there.


I really love this ecu, im gonna do some test this week on the dragstrip...spoon VS ap1 03...i'll give some update!
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Originally Posted by deathsled,Aug 16 2009, 04:35 PM
because allmotorslut posted about whether or not he needed to jump the wire on the "longest" plug and then confirmed he had it working. The A plug is the longest plug, that's why I chose A15.

So I should be using B15 and grounding it to B2?
I found this to help me


sorry its in french

http://clubs2000quebec.connectedu.com/Foru...c.php?f=14&t=14

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Originally Posted by deathsled,Aug 16 2009, 07:35 PM
because allmotorslut posted about whether or not he needed to jump the wire on the "longest" plug and then confirmed he had it working. The A plug is the longest plug, that's why I chose A15.

So I should be using B15 and grounding it to B2?
It's D15. Sorry for not indicating that previously.

Pls find the information in this PDF

http://www.marklamond.co.uk/products/s2000...ap1_cluster.pdf
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mor.gan, that can't be right...

On the s2000 ECU there is no "D" connector, even though one could physically plug in, there aren't any actual pins there.

You just posted a link to the instrument cluster pinout. You're saying I need to ground the indicator lamp light from the cluster? What would that accomplish?


Allmotorslut's link was more helpful, but it seems to indicate that A15 is indeed the immobilizer fuel pump relay pin, which is what I tried already. Shouldn't grounding that to a ground pin (such as B2) do the trick?

Allmotorslut, which pins did you end up hotwiring together? Did you do it in the harness or open up the ECU and do it from inside?

Right now I have a jumper wire running between pins A15 and B2. Do I need to sever the connection to the ECU for pin A15 maybe? You mentioned you might have cut the wire in the harness leading to the ECU and grounded it.


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