Yes, *If* you can pass the broomstick test.

 

Not sure how anyone passing the broomstick test for the OEM hoops can see over the dash.

Thanks for the responses, guys.

 

Just a heads up for local folks.. An s2ki member is doing a run of custom brackets so you can use OTS parts to make a wilwood rear bbk (doesn't retain the e-brake). The caliper used is wilwood part # 120-9706. It uses OTS rotors/hats, which are cheap ($80 rotor and $120 aluminum hat). The whole rear bbk costs $915 in parts (plus the brackets) all ordered from summit. His thread got removed the R&C section for whatever reason.

Anyway, the brackets are only $55 shipped w/ the threaded inserts pressed in. Can't beat that imo, and I'll buy a set in case I opt to ditch my e-brake and run this kit down the road. There are also plenty of pad options for the caliper. Anyway, just wanted to give the local track goers a heads up, as he's not making $ on them. If you're interested in a set message yamahasho.

Here was the original thread: http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=us

The part #'s for the "kit":

Hat 170-6947 170-6947
Rotor 160-5843 160-5843
Rotor/Hat Bolts 230-8390 230-8390
Caliper (DynaPro) 120-9706 120-9706
Brake Line Kit 220-10841

 

So here are my plans for the year:

1. New tires come tax return time - either the RS-3 V2, or the RE-11A or RE-71R if they're out in the right sizes by mid-March and there's a rebate going on. I figure the stones would be a better all-around tire even if the kooks are faster. Anybody know how they do in a 30 minute session?
2. New rotors - I'm gonna try those centric reverse mount directional vaned ones up front. I decided to keep the stoptech street performance pads do with them. I've been happy with the pads so far, but they do tend to chunk a little bit at the edges after 2-3 track days, thinking the extra cooling from the new rotors might help with that. For the price though, I can't complain.
3. Gotta do summit main and NJMP Thunderbolt this year - they're the only tracks in the area I haven't had a good crack at, and they're both close. I never looked into NASA NE, so all those NJMP events look promising. I'll definitely sub in a Dominion event though depending on scheduling, especially since it's only an hour drive.
4. We have a new baby on the way in February/March (our first!), but the wife says I can maybe do 2-3 events between July and the end of the season.

** on the roll bar topic

Trackdaze is pretty firm on roll bar unless its at Shenandoah or Jefferson, but when I was at NJMP Lightning with them 2 years ago, they let a guy run without one, though he had aftermarket seats putting him basically on the floor of the car.

PCA is cool with OE protection as long as you pass the broomstick test, but to run top down you need arm restraints. There is an arm restraint that works with 3-point belts, part number to Google is QE3ptArm. Only place that requires a bar is VIR as of last year. Tracking with them is a good way to make yourself feel poor.

I haven't run SCCA, but NASA did give my bar a good once-over.

 

Oh man.. best of luck! We had our first munchkin this past April, and it's been a very long 8+ months. Just in the last couple weeks she's getting better at eating and is less fussy which makes things a lot better. I did 3 events (4 days total), and caught grief for going. All I can say is enjoy your time w/o the munchkin for now. Go to dinner on a whim, visit some friends/etc, as everything turns into an ordeal afterwards w/ the little one.

 

First year is definitely the hardest.

You are able to get away with the stop tech streets on the track? using the OEM brakes?? thats really surprising.

 

If she gives the broomstick test it wouldn't be that bad to fail

 

First year is definitely the hardest.

You are able to get away with the stop tech streets on the track? using the OEM brakes?? thats really surprising.
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yup, the street performance to be clear, with centric blanks, ATE 200, and GT Motoring braided lines.

I've been running in green and blue the last 2 years on AP1 sized RS-3s, and the year and a half before that on my old RSX-S (same size front brakes). I've had no issues with fade, even running a 100+ degree weekend at Summit Main with PCA in the S 2 years ago and a 95 degree weekend with my old RSX-S (I was faster in that car too) - the tires would get greasy before the brakes started to let go. They also held up at VIR last summer which has 2 super-heavy braking zones as opposed to the one and a half at Summit Point, granted ambient temps when I was at VIR were in the 80 degree range.

I actually spoke to Stoptech's people about them a couple years ago; they have an effective temp range up to 1300F, which has worked out for me at every track day I've been at so far. A front set will last me about 3-4 track days with some margin for error, rears about double, and at less than $100 to do all 4 corners it seems stupid to upgrade until I start to feel limited by their heat capacity.

My only complaint would be when they get to be pretty hot they soften slightly and you can feel it in the pedal, but it doesn't affect my stopping distances at all, and to me actually makes them feel easier to modulate.

 

Interesting.. I wonder if it's due to the smaller ap1 tire sizes that you don't have issues..?

I was rocking some HP+'s a couple years back and was definitely getting fade on Summit Main when running 225/255 fresh z2's. I didn't really realize it until trying some DTC pads, and they feel much more consistent when they get hot. I realize with the HP+'s I compensated for the fade by pushing harder on the pedal, which made them a little unnerving when they got really hot, because they lost a good deal of bite.

I'll be running a stoptech kit this year, and was planning to try running the stoptech street pads for a session or two just to see how they do. I talked to the guy who writes the motoiq s2k articles, and he runs them on the track w/ success. Some of the west coast tracks are definitely easier on brakes though. Summit Main at turn 1 and then turn 5 (I think it's 5) w/ the hard left can definitely tax the brakes. I agree, if they work for you it's hard to beat the price vs. any other pads.

 

It might be, and I was running 225/50/16s all around on the RSX. I kept them when I sold the car and bought a set of AP1 front-sized tires, and burned through all six tires over the past 2.5 years first with my AP1 and now with my AP2. I'm moving up to my AP2's stock wheels now that the AP1 sizes are all spent, so we'll see it the extra tire makes me need upgraded pads. I'm going with OE sizes to start with though.

On another note, from what I understand the street performance actually have a higher temp threshold than the HP+ FWIW. I 've seen quite a few positive on-track reviews from guys with Evos, Zs, and even on corvette forums. I feel like until you get really good, they're kind of a perfect compromise pad.