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Old May 17, 2007 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Guld,May 17 2007, 11:41 AM
Given the posted facts and known evidence, I don't see how he could be convicted beyond reasonable doubt.
Thank you. You just reiterated my point: posted "facts." That's why I find it silly for anyone to offer anything other than "good luck."
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Old May 17, 2007 | 07:48 AM
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[QUOTE=Guld,May 17 2007, 10:41 AM] Given the posted facts and known evidence, I don't see how he could be convicted beyond reasonable doubt. Furthermore, I've seen my share of overzealous prosecutors who don
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Old May 17, 2007 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by FF2Skip,May 17 2007, 07:44 AM
Thank you. You just reiterated my point: posted "facts." That's why I find it silly for anyone to offer anything other than "good luck."
...as silly perhaps as playing the role of the cynical. You have simply shown a disregard for the basic concept that it is the state that has the burden of proof to prove him guilty. Unless you know something that I don't...
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Old May 17, 2007 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Guld,May 17 2007, 11:50 AM
...as silly perhaps as playing the role of the cynical. You have simply shown a disregard for the basic concept that it is the state that has the burden of proof to prove him guilty. Unless you know something that I don't...
You mean "realist?"

This is the internet- where half the crap is just that- crap. Do you really think all the details were outlined in the first post? The kid had a lawyer. The state had a prosecutor. Do you think a state police can just trump up charges such as the above and have it stick? Since you and I have both sat in court more than once, we know that there are many representatives of defendents in the room, no? If something was so amiss, don't you think someone would catch it?

My point still remains, taking sides with only half the facts is silly.
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Old May 17, 2007 | 07:56 AM
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Old May 17, 2007 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by FF2Skip,May 17 2007, 07:56 AM
You mean "realist?"

This is the internet- where half the crap is just that- crap. Do you really think all the details were outlined in the first post? The kid had a lawyer. The state had a prosecutor. Do you think a state police can just trump up charges such as the above and have it stick? Since you and I have both sat in court more than once, we know that there are many representatives of defendents in the room, no? If something was so amiss, don't you think someone would catch it?

My point still remains, taking sides with only half the facts is silly.
Realistic or Naivet
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Old May 17, 2007 | 08:24 AM
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40+ for wreckless in illinois FTW.
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Old May 17, 2007 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Rprsntng757,May 16 2007, 10:29 PM
I have a lawyer, and I thought he did a great job, he is suppose to be one of the best in the area, or at least thats what I keep getting told. I was certain the charges would be dropped up until she read the verdict. The judge just screwed me on this one.
Guld, keep assuming. I'm assuming from reading the above quote that he did not use a court appointed attorney.
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Old May 17, 2007 | 08:55 AM
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I don't want to go on about this anymore. I'm on drugs.
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Old May 17, 2007 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by C45P312,May 17 2007, 09:56 AM
lies.com

no omissions > omissions testing
yeah, but

emissions > omissions.
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