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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 05:32 AM
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The condition could hardly be considered "flawless", but that's an issue with false advertising. The point is what does he do now?

Does he just intend on complaining in the open forum to let off some steam, or is he considering doing something about it? If he might want to do something, then what? If he asks for compensation due to false advertising, is he willing to return for a full refund if the seller refuses to do anything else? As with all claims, if you're not willing to go the full nine yards, all you'll end up doing is pissing people off, including yourself.

If you believe the price you paid was too high for the condition they're actually in, ask for a partial refund. If refused, ask for a full refund. If still refused, then bitch to high hell in the open forums to let people know this seller uses false advertising to pawn substandard items and isn't willing to work with unsatisfied buyers after the sale.
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 07:27 AM
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I think that's the most important thing right there.
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 08:36 AM
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Part of the problem is that the idea of "great condition" is subjective. To one person who doesn't have an eye for or concern for detail. Rims with minor blemishes might qualify as "great condition" to him/her while another may only rate them "fair to good".

The whole truth in advertising thing is mostly an academic debate as was mentioned earlier. If he said there were "no flaws" than that is a more argue-able point than the "great condition" comment as the latter is subjective but the first one is not as much.

I do think the price is a key factor in the equation here. If they were priced significantly below market value and you feel that they were worth the expense then probably not worth the time to try to hastle someone on the principal behind a description that is mostly subjective.

If you feel cheated then go after him! If not then I'd let it be
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 08:53 AM
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"Great condition" may be subjective... But bends, curbing and embedded brake dust? Even the newbest of newbs wouldn't consider that "great condition" unless perhaps they were track wheels...
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 10:44 AM
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fs: one oem ap1 wheel powdercoated black... great condition.



if you're in the market for a broken wheel.
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by animeS2K,Jun 14 2007, 02:25 AM
Were they priced VERY well? Or do you feel like you were cheated?
Was the price reasonable for the condition, even if the condition wasn't as represented initially?

Did you not see photos before sending money/accepting the package?
Or if it was a local deal, why did you accept them if they were in this
condition and not what you expected or wanted?

Have you tried to contact the member for a refund/return?

Always remember, caveat emptor.
I did get a good price on them, but regardless IMO how much I paid for them, the condition shouldve have been described accurately. He said the Rims were flawless, absolutely nothing wrong with them except for minor chips where the lugnuts go. And there is a lot more damage than that. He had only 2 photos posted, a 10ft away shot of the driver side, and a close up on one rim. I asked for more pictures and he said that they were already boxed up, that he would see if he had some older pictures somewhere. I've contacted the member, and he claims that there wasnt any damage when they left his possesion. And he would like to see pictures of the "damages on the rims." So as soon as I get his email, I'm going to send them to him.
I'm honestly very dissappointed with the service and product from this fellow member. The rims were dirty as sh*t, caked with 6 month old brake dust, they were missing the hubcentric rings that he said would be included. And then of course "the great condition of these rims"
I'm just looking to get a partial refund for the bent rim to get fixed and to replace the tire that is slashed that was also suppose to be in "great condition" with 90% tread.
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 11:38 AM
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So one rim is truly bent, it's not just cosmetic? I would say this is absolute fraud, then. Unless he's willing to pay for complete replacement and/or repair of the bent rim, publicly lambaste him.
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 12:32 PM
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scam.
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 12:44 PM
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I've been screwed over buying a lot of stuff on this forum. I sincerely hope this was just a mis-communication or something. If it does turn out where he sold them knowing they were damaged, try to work it out privately first, but if that fails..... then like MacGyver said....make it public.
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 01:31 PM
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conditions might be subjective. from great-good-excellent.. but the simple fact that he stated they were flawless that is not subjective. that is him stating that it is without any type of flaw. obviously if it has a little scratch, it has a flaw, a crack, a bent.. anything.

So i would seek a refund, or at least get him to give back some money... but if you got a great deal out of it, i say just let it go...
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