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Originally Posted by boltonblue,Jul 10 2008, 08:44 AM
There is this little German company called Mercedes Benz. you may have heard of them but anyway, I think they sort of have a little lead on Honda here.
Next year they have a series of diesel hybrids coming out that are super efficient.
E class with 200+ hp and still 55 mpg.
Next year they have a series of diesel hybrids coming out that are super efficient.
E class with 200+ hp and still 55 mpg.
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Originally Posted by Triple-H,Jul 10 2008, 08:50 AM
I disdain Mercedes Benz. I know you love them and that's great, but when it comes to MB, I'm a hater...
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Originally Posted by boltonblue,Jul 10 2008, 07:51 AM
with no antagonistic intent whatsoever, but why?
I have been a BMW fan for so very, very long. So it is sort of like if you are a Ford fan you despise Chevy. I'm a BMW fan, period. And as we BMW heads like to say - do you know the differnece between BMW and MB? Mercades makes luxury cars and tosses in performance. BMW makes performance cars and tosses in luxury.
And please, don't get me started on The Smart
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Originally Posted by elmmx5,Jul 10 2008, 08:52 AM
I'd expect VW to make the biggest diesel impact.
I'm not an M-B hater, though they're not my favorite Bavarian brand. Erick is right, though, most people who can afford a Benz don't really need to budget their gas money, so it'll really only lure people already in the market for a luxury car.
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Originally Posted by elmmx5,Jul 10 2008, 07:53 AM
OK Doug. You hate MB, and you hate Porsche. Do you hate all German cars, or just these two marques? ...and why?
And again, I'm more than happy to say these are emotional based, and I'm ok with that.
Porsche also sort of includes Audi and VW, but really I just dislike those two, my passion against Porsche is stronger.
It infuriates me, it is so not what I'm into, that a 1963 901 looks exactly like a 2008 911. What the hell, in some 45 years they have not been aboe to come up with a new idea? There is not a single Ferrar today that looks anything like something from their stable 45-years ago.
And let's not forget, the damn P-cars are the bane of many race teams. I know and respect the car's accomplishments for sure, but from a design point of view, I just want to barf on the 911.
It has nothing to do with them being German. In fact you can deliver to my door a new Z4 M Coupe any day of the week, thank you very much!
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Originally Posted by elmmx5,Jul 10 2008, 07:52 AM
But they don't sell cheap cars. I'd expect VW to make the biggest diesel impact.
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Originally Posted by Triple-H,Jul 10 2008, 09:10 AM
MB answer already provided...
And again, I'm more than happy to say these are emotional based, and I'm ok with that.
Porsche also sort of includes Audi and VW, but really I just dislike those two, my passion against Porsche is stronger.
It infuriates me, it is so not what I'm into, that a 1963 901 looks exactly like a 2008 911. What the hell, in some 45 years they have not been aboe to come up with a new idea? There is not a single Ferrar today that looks anything like something from their stable 45-years ago.
And let's not forget, the damn P-cars are the bane of many race teams. I know and respect the car's accomplishments for sure, but from a design point of view, I just want to barf on the 911.
It has nothing to do with them being German. In fact you can deliver to my door a new Z4 M Coupe any day of the week, thank you very much!
And again, I'm more than happy to say these are emotional based, and I'm ok with that.
Porsche also sort of includes Audi and VW, but really I just dislike those two, my passion against Porsche is stronger.
It infuriates me, it is so not what I'm into, that a 1963 901 looks exactly like a 2008 911. What the hell, in some 45 years they have not been aboe to come up with a new idea? There is not a single Ferrar today that looks anything like something from their stable 45-years ago.
And let's not forget, the damn P-cars are the bane of many race teams. I know and respect the car's accomplishments for sure, but from a design point of view, I just want to barf on the 911.
It has nothing to do with them being German. In fact you can deliver to my door a new Z4 M Coupe any day of the week, thank you very much!