I just don't get it... why debate when you can go elsewhere to find pictures of hotties? It's a car forum.... while it doesn't have to be on topic, there are far better places to find pictures. I propose that unless she's shown ON or IN a hot car, there's no need for a whole thread o'hotties.

May I suggest Foobies <-- NOT SAFE FOR WORK OR KIDS!!!

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Jeff, we are allowed to discuss politics in the club communities so long as the discussion stays civil and respectful, so feel free to post such threads.

Hotties threads go in the Hotties forum. I dumped our thread in the site dumpster because it included the exchange between Steve and I about site rules and my explanation about why I allowed the thread to stay open as long as I did. I felt we did not need to publish community issues in the Hotties forum.

But the whole "Hotties" issue is not black and white. Take a look at the Hooters Meet thread. Plenty of pictures of hotties on that thread, but it is a meet, so I left it up. We have had similar pics with models or girl friends posing with our cars. I think it is reasonable to allow some pics of girls in the right context.

 

Best of luck today Jeff

 

Thanks guys. And thank you, Bill, for explaining whats going on.

Like I said, my argument is not really about the hott babe thread, which I could honestly care less about. All I am concerned with is the idea of some type of moral policing going on around here with threads getting deleted if they might offend someone. It certainly has not approached that level at this point, but I want to make sure we are on terra firma about what will be allowed and what won't.

After all, if potentially offensive posts were to be outlawed, then I would argue that many of your own posts at times would have had to be locked as well.

 

I enjoyed the thread. Ogling pictures of hotties wasn't the reason though. The part I found most fun in that thread was getting a sense of what other members find attractive, and of course making fun of that when possible. I followed that thread because the posts were from fellow NE s2ki friends. Sure the site had a specific place for that stuff, but I honestly couldn't care less what a bunch of random s2ki users post there. If I was just looking for hotties for the sake of looking at hotties, s2ki sure wouldn't be where I would go.

 

Exactly Dave, I'm happy with who I am, and all that is, is just good ole fun teasing...

 

If we are to enforce rules I suggest a sticky of which rules NE has to follow . It was my understanding that the general forum rules were for the general forums and the communities set forth there own rules ..

We never had rules before Ind if we are to set new rules they should be voted on by Paid NE S2ki members .

I am still confused on the CO's role ?? If they are going to Mod , them just make them Mods ???

 

I'm a Mod, and I'm a CO and I have to say, the roles are very different. There may be common s2ki.com authorization powers, but the primary roles and responsabilities are very different.

A Mod looks out for forum rules and tries their best to enforce them as well as tries to difuse hostilities whenever possible. A Mod typically has a forum that is their primary responsability, they take on all the moderating and anger management issues along with the very mundane tasks like making stickies, editing thread titles, merging topics, moving threads and stuff like that. In addition, they keep their mod hat on no matter what forum they are in, and if they see something that is in appropriate, they report it to the Mod of that forum or to an Admin so actions can be taken.

A CO has that same role, their forum is the local community forum, but the CO has a much larger role, as well as the added responsability/challenge to make decisions that might be slightly different than the overall rules of s2ki.com. To explain that think about items for sale. The s2ki.com rule is no posting things for sale in the main for sale forum if you are not a member, perior, cut and dry, just like it should be. The CO on the other hand can make exceptions in the local community forum if they choose to. A big part of this is because it ties into the major role of the CO, and that is to develop the community into a more active group. A guest who has the ability to post a local for sale item may do a lot to help out a member get something they have been looking for, as well as might get motivated enough because of selling something to rethink the whole becoming a member thing. The CO's job is a tough one, growth and development of the community is the primary objective, and anybody who has been a parent knows, parents are not perfect, the love they have for their children may be 100% pure, but that does not mean they always make the best decision. Their heart is in the right place, but things don't always work out they way it was hoped they would. A CO has a tough job, it's a balencing act, and the bottom line is, sometimes the CO will piss people off, that's not the objective for sure, but it might be the outcome. A good CO is always acting based upon their true beliefe that the action they are taking is the right one for the overall community's health.

And for the record, I'm not critiquing or supporting Bill's actions one way or the other, I'm simply sharing the answer to your question from my point-of-view.

 

I have to leave for a meeting and can't participate in this thread today, but I did want to thank doug for explaining the CO role. If I tried to do it, some would just say I was wrong. Frankly, that is about all that has been happening here since we decided to have COs. It seems I am wrong if I delete threads, wrong if I let threads stay up, wrong if I ask members what our rules should be, and wrong if Jeff and I decide on rules. All of those approaches cannot be wrong. At least one has to be right, yet I have been attacked for doing it each way described above.

My approach to this is simple. If I know the rule, I will act on it. If I don't know the rule, I will ask the site admins about it. If there is no strict rule, I will ask the community what it would like to do. If I am comfortable with what the community wants, then that is how the place will be run. If I am not, I will resign as CO. I have said this all before, and it was the basis on which you supported me as a CO candidate. Please post here if you still support that approach or now disagree with it. I think it is important to the community to know what we all expect.

 

from me